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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241820

Your telling me that Alpha got a WARN, not even a ban for 2 hours but just a warning! How much proof and reports do you need to actually take action. Zarp's punishment enforcement is terrible. I am seeing a trend where the people who are rich and active receive less of a punishment? I got banned for Prop Climbing 2 years ago for an hour. This I believe was a fair ban, but Mass RDMx10 and Disrespect the guy gets off with a warning? Why Morgan why?

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241821

Staff follow an ethos and punishment guide so to speak, they base their punishments off of the uses rapsheet, you don't need to go psycho because of a staffs judgement that they seemed fit to the situation. There's a lot more that goes on than you'd think. I don't see why you're making it a huge deal.	Gody Offline Mythical Boarder Posts: 5954 Thanks received: 1058 Karma: -117
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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241827

Neilsen wrote: didnt have to make 2 posts on the same topic Reading before jumping to conclusion would be nice!	Crimson5266 Offline Nitro Booster Posts: 14 Karma: -1
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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241831

Gody wrote:

Staff follow an ethos and punishment guide so to speak, they base their punishments off of the uses rapsheet, you don't need to go psycho because of a staffs judgement that they seemed fit to the situation. There's a lot more that goes on than you'd think. I don't see why you're making it a huge deal.

Imagine your a new player and someone in a Jugg sprays you down. Would you continue to play or just say fuck it and leave. Zarp is starting to become less and less noob friendly which is gonna hurt itself in the long run. I have seen the same people play each day and there has been no new ones the DarkRp community from the looks of it, is dying and allowing people to run rampant isnt okay

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241833

Crimson5266 wrote:

Gody wrote:

Staff follow an ethos and punishment guide so to speak, they base their punishments off of the uses rapsheet, you don't need to go psycho because of a staffs judgement that they seemed fit to the situation. There's a lot more that goes on than you'd think. I don't see why you're making it a huge deal.

Imagine your a new player and someone in a Jugg sprays you down. Would you continue to play or just say fuck it and leave. Zarp is starting to become less and less noob friendly which is gonna hurt itself in the long run. I have seen the same people play each day and there has been no new ones the DarkRp community from the looks of it, is dying and allowing people to run rampant isnt okay

I understand your struggle and many other members of the community know what it's like for new players to begin, and there is something big coming for new players, but even then staff can't just ban someone for something like what happened with a rapsheet of nothing. It will be kept in mind and if the player is caught doing similar actions then a ban would be taken into place. You don't need to flame Morgan when he's doing what he thinks is right and he knows what he is doing. So it's not his fault he's following the right ways of punishing via rapsheet.

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241835

Gody wrote:

Crimson5266 wrote:

Gody wrote:

Staff follow an ethos and punishment guide so to speak, they base their punishments off of the uses rapsheet, you don't need to go psycho because of a staffs judgement that they seemed fit to the situation. There's a lot more that goes on than you'd think. I don't see why you're making it a huge deal.

Imagine your a new player and someone in a Jugg sprays you down. Would you continue to play or just say fuck it and leave. Zarp is starting to become less and less noob friendly which is gonna hurt itself in the long run. I have seen the same people play each day and there has been no new ones the DarkRp community from the looks of it, is dying and allowing people to run rampant isnt okay

I understand your struggle and many other members of the community know what it's like for new players to begin, and there is something big coming for new players, but even then staff can't just ban someone for something like what happened with a rapsheet of nothing. It will be kept in mind and if the player is caught doing similar actions then a ban would be taken into place. You don't need to flame Morgan when he's doing what he thinks is right and he knows what he is doing. So it's not his fault he's following the right ways of punishing via rapsheet.

First off, I have played for 3 years and it has been the same way for THREE YEARS. I see Morgan is following the guidelines and he shouldn't change, the guidelines should. If the rule the player breaks is severe the player should be banned. He didn't RDM 2 times or 3 times, which isnt that bad, but he RDMed 10 times. I mean where is the limit? When will a person finally be banned? Staff aren't as active as they should be. I know I will get hate for saying so, because I am not staff, but I sent a report about Alpha long before he rdmed me 10 times. If a staff were to be online during that I believe I wouldn't have to post on the forums to complain. Staff aren't active and thats a huge issue.

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241839

To be fair I feel the punishments given for rules do need to be stricter, would literally lower the amount of rule breaks from active and long standing member of the SSRP server. From what I've seen in the past, a player deserving of a long ban for the things they've done would sometimes have the ban reduced due to it being too long.

Makes 0 sense in my opinion, if staff don't want players breaking rules, then they just have to be stricter but within the guidelines, or a whole rework of how a staff member handles a player breaking rules should be handled altogether.

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241841

I gave him a warning because a ban would have been too harsh seeing as he didn't have but a few recent punishments.	Morgan Offline Legendary Member Posts: 15971 Thanks received: 6527 Karma: 105
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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241854

Micky wrote:

To be fair I feel the punishments given for rules do need to be stricter, would literally lower the amount of rule breaks from active and long standing member of the SSRP server. From what I've seen in the past, a player deserving of a long ban for the things they've done would sometimes have the ban reduced due to it being too long.

Makes 0 sense in my opinion, if staff don't want players breaking rules, then they just have to be stricter but within the guidelines, or a whole rework of how a staff member handles a player breaking rules should be handled altogether.

problem is that if you for example rdm for whatever reason do you want to get banned? Nope. They just watch these cunts that are bored to fuck that they just enter any server and fuck around till they get banned its OK and in like 10 or 15 mins they get banned for constant mass rdm .

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241867

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Micky wrote:

To be fair I feel the punishments given for rules do need to be stricter, would literally lower the amount of rule breaks from active and long standing member of the SSRP server. From what I've seen in the past, a player deserving of a long ban for the things they've done would sometimes have the ban reduced due to it being too long.

Makes 0 sense in my opinion, if staff don't want players breaking rules, then they just have to be stricter but within the guidelines, or a whole rework of how a staff member handles a player breaking rules should be handled altogether.

problem is that if you for example rdm for whatever reason do you want to get banned? Nope. They just watch these cunts that are bored to fuck that they just enter any server and fuck around till they get banned its OK and in like 10 or 15 mins they get banned for constant mass rdm .

You're massively missing the point, there is a difference between banning a player with no recents for a singular RDM case and allowing players with over 8 active warnings play on the server whilst breaking rules and get simply awarded a verbal or
warning rather than a ban.

As for myself, I only dispute warnings that I feel is undeserved or unfair from my POV. If the idea of stricter staff members were to be implemented, I'd have 0 problems with the warnings or bans given to me as long as I feel that they're deserved.

A prime example of leniency is a situation that happened a while back where I ended up mass rdming and getting away with a verbal punishment. I had over 50 kills worth of RDM in the space of 5 minutes, my friend which had 0 recents I believe
RDM'd 10 people and got a perm ban. Where is the logic in this?

If people want the rate of rule breaks to lower then all they have to do is be more strict when it comes to rules. Give longer more needed bans to players that deserve it going off of their recent and rules that're being actively broken.

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241941

Micky wrote:

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Micky wrote:

To be fair I feel the punishments given for rules do need to be stricter, would literally lower the amount of rule breaks from active and long standing member of the SSRP server. From what I've seen in the past, a player deserving of a long ban for the things they've done would sometimes have the ban reduced due to it being too long.

Makes 0 sense in my opinion, if staff don't want players breaking rules, then they just have to be stricter but within the guidelines, or a whole rework of how a staff member handles a player breaking rules should be handled altogether.

problem is that if you for example rdm for whatever reason do you want to get banned? Nope. They just watch these cunts that are bored to fuck that they just enter any server and fuck around till they get banned its OK and in like 10 or 15 mins they get banned for constant mass rdm .

You're massively missing the point, there is a difference between banning a player with no recents for a singular RDM case and allowing players with over 8 active warnings play on the server whilst breaking rules and get simply awarded a verbal or
warning rather than a ban.

As for myself, I only dispute warnings that I feel is undeserved or unfair from my POV. If the idea of stricter staff members were to be implemented, I'd have 0 problems with the warnings or bans given to me as long as I feel that they're deserved.

A prime example of leniency is a situation that happened a while back where I ended up mass rdming and getting away with a verbal punishment. I had over 50 kills worth of RDM in the space of 5 minutes, my friend which had 0 recents I believe
RDM'd 10 people and got a perm ban. Where is the logic in this?

If people want the rate of rule breaks to lower then all they have to do is be more strict when it comes to rules. Give longer more needed bans to players that deserve it going off of their recent and rules that're being actively broken.

A few years ago I got harsher punishments and it worked until this new system as it is so easy to get away with anything

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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241958

I remember getting a ban cause I said shut up to a user Good times	Lenny Boy Offline Expert Boarder Posts: 967 Thanks received: 233 Karma: -11
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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241959

well I mean u rdmd before and I didn't report it lol u also prop fly and prop push a lot so u rule break as well so we are both equal lol aswell the following events u were failing rp and kepts coming back to nlr areas when not meant to be before this so its not just me who makes mistakes	TheAlpha Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 72 Thanks received: 11 Karma: -2
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This is quite honestly Bullshit 4 years 5 months ago #1241972

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