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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064371

House wrote:

Meh, telling me that you lost interest in TTT but now saying that you changed after there was no improvment in your activity, communication with the LT whatsoever I personally thought that you just lost interest in staffing but for some reason didn't want to resign so bringing that up now seems kinda shady to me.

Activity in the past 30 days [ Click to expand ]

Even if you you're not home the whole week except for sundays then why do we not know about it?
All I know is that there is some kind of problem with your Gmod and if you need to reinstall it in order to get it working again
then you could've done that during the week.
Considering that you came up with that excuse two times in a row & considering that you messaged me 3 hours before the meeting when it was already too late to even get your minimum time and in addition to those
points you have been struggling to get your time for more than 4 weeks now aaand that you told me that you had lost interest, I felt that a demotion was reasonable.

By the way I don't really get why you think that I was the one who may or may not brought you up, but even if I did there was a vote on you, like its not that anyone could get you demoted single handedly.

Edit: About that "I wasn't warned" thingy:

You have been officially warned for inactivity on 18/11/2018, so imo you had enough time to tell us that you'd like to go on inactivity, that certaint changes in your life came up and you're only able to get on the server on weekends etc etc but all of that didn't happen, so I honestly don't really get what you are on about.

Edit 2: Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.
So yet again, a lack of communication on your side honestly, like.. I'm sorry but atm thats how I see this situation..

Here’s the thing house, hopefully this enlightens things that you haven’t seen, to what I remember I was aware of fives only sundays thing and since his been staff for so long I don’t blame him for not telling the new LT about his timings aaa I’d see it obvious when they are on as you work alongside them

2 ok this may not be true but it may be he might not have access to his pc/laptop till Sunday or Saturday for whatever reasons

And lastly I’d like to remind you guys that it’s holiday season and has been the past few weeks from thanksgiving so I’m not surprised if there is less staff on as come on guys you have to just let holidays slide as fives was a really dedicated admin sometimes people need a break and also we are all humans and can forget things

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064376

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064377

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064379

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Seargent44 wrote:

House wrote:

Meh, telling me that you lost interest in TTT but now saying that you changed after there was no improvment in your activity, communication with the LT whatsoever I personally thought that you just lost interest in staffing but for some reason didn't want to resign so bringing that up now seems kinda shady to me.

Activity in the past 30 days [ Click to expand ]

Even if you you're not home the whole week except for sundays then why do we not know about it?
All I know is that there is some kind of problem with your Gmod and if you need to reinstall it in order to get it working again
then you could've done that during the week.
Considering that you came up with that excuse two times in a row & considering that you messaged me 3 hours before the meeting when it was already too late to even get your minimum time and in addition to those
points you have been struggling to get your time for more than 4 weeks now aaand that you told me that you had lost interest, I felt that a demotion was reasonable.

By the way I don't really get why you think that I was the one who may or may not brought you up, but even if I did there was a vote on you, like its not that anyone could get you demoted single handedly.

Edit: About that "I wasn't warned" thingy:

You have been officially warned for inactivity on 18/11/2018, so imo you had enough time to tell us that you'd like to go on inactivity, that certaint changes in your life came up and you're only able to get on the server on weekends etc etc but all of that didn't happen, so I honestly don't really get what you are on about.

Edit 2: Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.
So yet again, a lack of communication on your side honestly, like.. I'm sorry but atm thats how I see this situation..

Here’s the thing house, hopefully this enlightens things that you haven’t seen, to what I remember I was aware of fives only sundays thing and since his been staff for so long I don’t blame him for not telling the new LT about his timings aaa I’d see it obvious when they are on as you work alongside them

2 ok this may not be true but it may be he might not have access to his pc/laptop till Sunday or Saturday for whatever reasons

And lastly I’d like to remind you guys that it’s holiday season and has been the past few weeks from thanksgiving so I’m not surprised if there is less staff on as come on guys you have to just let holidays slide as fives was a really dedicated admin sometimes people need a break and also we are all humans and can forget things

Why should the fact that a staff member can only play on one day a week mean that they shouldn't be held to the same standards as every other staff member? The requirement is already pretty low imo at 4 hours a week, as a staff member you are responsible for making sure you can get the required activity, regardless of what days you can play on.

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064392

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Seargent44 wrote:

House wrote:

Meh, telling me that you lost interest in TTT but now saying that you changed after there was no improvment in your activity, communication with the LT whatsoever I personally thought that you just lost interest in staffing but for some reason didn't want to resign so bringing that up now seems kinda shady to me.

Activity in the past 30 days [ Click to expand ]

Even if you you're not home the whole week except for sundays then why do we not know about it?
All I know is that there is some kind of problem with your Gmod and if you need to reinstall it in order to get it working again
then you could've done that during the week.
Considering that you came up with that excuse two times in a row & considering that you messaged me 3 hours before the meeting when it was already too late to even get your minimum time and in addition to those
points you have been struggling to get your time for more than 4 weeks now aaand that you told me that you had lost interest, I felt that a demotion was reasonable.

By the way I don't really get why you think that I was the one who may or may not brought you up, but even if I did there was a vote on you, like its not that anyone could get you demoted single handedly.

Edit: About that "I wasn't warned" thingy:

You have been officially warned for inactivity on 18/11/2018, so imo you had enough time to tell us that you'd like to go on inactivity, that certaint changes in your life came up and you're only able to get on the server on weekends etc etc but all of that didn't happen, so I honestly don't really get what you are on about.

Edit 2: Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.
So yet again, a lack of communication on your side honestly, like.. I'm sorry but atm thats how I see this situation..

Here’s the thing house, hopefully this enlightens things that you haven’t seen, to what I remember I was aware of fives only sundays thing and since his been staff for so long I don’t blame him for not telling the new LT about his timings aaa I’d see it obvious when they are on as you work alongside them

2 ok this may not be true but it may be he might not have access to his pc/laptop till Sunday or Saturday for whatever reasons

And lastly I’d like to remind you guys that it’s holiday season and has been the past few weeks from thanksgiving so I’m not surprised if there is less staff on as come on guys you have to just let holidays slide as fives was a really dedicated admin sometimes people need a break and also we are all humans and can forget things

Well Seargent you basically just proved my point of a lack of communication, like I said, I nor any other LT members who were present during the meetings of the official warning and the demotion were aware of this, but thats like not our fault as he didn't tell us about it.
And if someone is busy with their reallifes then that is not an issue at all, but if they don't care to tell us about it then what are we supposed to do in all honesty?

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064396

House wrote:

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Seargent44 wrote:

House wrote:

Meh, telling me that you lost interest in TTT but now saying that you changed after there was no improvment in your activity, communication with the LT whatsoever I personally thought that you just lost interest in staffing but for some reason didn't want to resign so bringing that up now seems kinda shady to me.

Activity in the past 30 days [ Click to expand ]

Even if you you're not home the whole week except for sundays then why do we not know about it?
All I know is that there is some kind of problem with your Gmod and if you need to reinstall it in order to get it working again
then you could've done that during the week.
Considering that you came up with that excuse two times in a row & considering that you messaged me 3 hours before the meeting when it was already too late to even get your minimum time and in addition to those
points you have been struggling to get your time for more than 4 weeks now aaand that you told me that you had lost interest, I felt that a demotion was reasonable.

By the way I don't really get why you think that I was the one who may or may not brought you up, but even if I did there was a vote on you, like its not that anyone could get you demoted single handedly.

Edit: About that "I wasn't warned" thingy:

You have been officially warned for inactivity on 18/11/2018, so imo you had enough time to tell us that you'd like to go on inactivity, that certaint changes in your life came up and you're only able to get on the server on weekends etc etc but all of that didn't happen, so I honestly don't really get what you are on about.

Edit 2: Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.
So yet again, a lack of communication on your side honestly, like.. I'm sorry but atm thats how I see this situation..

Here’s the thing house, hopefully this enlightens things that you haven’t seen, to what I remember I was aware of fives only sundays thing and since his been staff for so long I don’t blame him for not telling the new LT about his timings aaa I’d see it obvious when they are on as you work alongside them

2 ok this may not be true but it may be he might not have access to his pc/laptop till Sunday or Saturday for whatever reasons

And lastly I’d like to remind you guys that it’s holiday season and has been the past few weeks from thanksgiving so I’m not surprised if there is less staff on as come on guys you have to just let holidays slide as fives was a really dedicated admin sometimes people need a break and also we are all humans and can forget things

Well Seargent you basically just proved my point of a lack of communication, like I said, I nor any other LT members who were present during the meetings of the official warning and the demotion were aware of this, but thats like not our fault as he didn't tell us about it.
And if someone is busy with their reallifes then that is not an issue at all, but if they don't care to tell us about it then what are we supposed to do in all honesty?

If you didn’t ask if he had a reason for his inactivity then how the fuck is he supposed to know there has been a miscommunication between the lead team? Maybe the reason you didn’t know about it was because you didn’t confront him about the issue and t could have easily just been said that he was unable to join the server. It also looks like he messaged you as a precautionary measure

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064402

Kyber wrote:

House wrote:

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Seargent44 wrote:

House wrote:

Meh, telling me that you lost interest in TTT but now saying that you changed after there was no improvment in your activity, communication with the LT whatsoever I personally thought that you just lost interest in staffing but for some reason didn't want to resign so bringing that up now seems kinda shady to me.

Activity in the past 30 days [ Click to expand ]

Even if you you're not home the whole week except for sundays then why do we not know about it?
All I know is that there is some kind of problem with your Gmod and if you need to reinstall it in order to get it working again
then you could've done that during the week.
Considering that you came up with that excuse two times in a row & considering that you messaged me 3 hours before the meeting when it was already too late to even get your minimum time and in addition to those
points you have been struggling to get your time for more than 4 weeks now aaand that you told me that you had lost interest, I felt that a demotion was reasonable.

By the way I don't really get why you think that I was the one who may or may not brought you up, but even if I did there was a vote on you, like its not that anyone could get you demoted single handedly.

Edit: About that "I wasn't warned" thingy:

You have been officially warned for inactivity on 18/11/2018, so imo you had enough time to tell us that you'd like to go on inactivity, that certaint changes in your life came up and you're only able to get on the server on weekends etc etc but all of that didn't happen, so I honestly don't really get what you are on about.

Edit 2: Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.
So yet again, a lack of communication on your side honestly, like.. I'm sorry but atm thats how I see this situation..

Here’s the thing house, hopefully this enlightens things that you haven’t seen, to what I remember I was aware of fives only sundays thing and since his been staff for so long I don’t blame him for not telling the new LT about his timings aaa I’d see it obvious when they are on as you work alongside them

2 ok this may not be true but it may be he might not have access to his pc/laptop till Sunday or Saturday for whatever reasons

And lastly I’d like to remind you guys that it’s holiday season and has been the past few weeks from thanksgiving so I’m not surprised if there is less staff on as come on guys you have to just let holidays slide as fives was a really dedicated admin sometimes people need a break and also we are all humans and can forget things

Well Seargent you basically just proved my point of a lack of communication, like I said, I nor any other LT members who were present during the meetings of the official warning and the demotion were aware of this, but thats like not our fault as he didn't tell us about it.
And if someone is busy with their reallifes then that is not an issue at all, but if they don't care to tell us about it then what are we supposed to do in all honesty?

If you didn’t ask if he had a reason for his inactivity then how the fuck is he supposed to know there has been a miscommunication between the lead team? Maybe the reason you didn’t know about it was because you didn’t confront him about the issue and t could have easily just been said that he was unable to join the server. It also looks like he messaged you as a precautionary measure

House wrote:

Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.

They did confront him about his inactivity based on this.

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064452

Xerceas wrote:

Kyber wrote:

House wrote:

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Seargent44 wrote:

House wrote:

Meh, telling me that you lost interest in TTT but now saying that you changed after there was no improvment in your activity, communication with the LT whatsoever I personally thought that you just lost interest in staffing but for some reason didn't want to resign so bringing that up now seems kinda shady to me.

Activity in the past 30 days [ Click to expand ]

Even if you you're not home the whole week except for sundays then why do we not know about it?
All I know is that there is some kind of problem with your Gmod and if you need to reinstall it in order to get it working again
then you could've done that during the week.
Considering that you came up with that excuse two times in a row & considering that you messaged me 3 hours before the meeting when it was already too late to even get your minimum time and in addition to those
points you have been struggling to get your time for more than 4 weeks now aaand that you told me that you had lost interest, I felt that a demotion was reasonable.

By the way I don't really get why you think that I was the one who may or may not brought you up, but even if I did there was a vote on you, like its not that anyone could get you demoted single handedly.

Edit: About that "I wasn't warned" thingy:

You have been officially warned for inactivity on 18/11/2018, so imo you had enough time to tell us that you'd like to go on inactivity, that certaint changes in your life came up and you're only able to get on the server on weekends etc etc but all of that didn't happen, so I honestly don't really get what you are on about.

Edit 2: Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.
So yet again, a lack of communication on your side honestly, like.. I'm sorry but atm thats how I see this situation..

Here’s the thing house, hopefully this enlightens things that you haven’t seen, to what I remember I was aware of fives only sundays thing and since his been staff for so long I don’t blame him for not telling the new LT about his timings aaa I’d see it obvious when they are on as you work alongside them

2 ok this may not be true but it may be he might not have access to his pc/laptop till Sunday or Saturday for whatever reasons

And lastly I’d like to remind you guys that it’s holiday season and has been the past few weeks from thanksgiving so I’m not surprised if there is less staff on as come on guys you have to just let holidays slide as fives was a really dedicated admin sometimes people need a break and also we are all humans and can forget things

Well Seargent you basically just proved my point of a lack of communication, like I said, I nor any other LT members who were present during the meetings of the official warning and the demotion were aware of this, but thats like not our fault as he didn't tell us about it.
And if someone is busy with their reallifes then that is not an issue at all, but if they don't care to tell us about it then what are we supposed to do in all honesty?

If you didn’t ask if he had a reason for his inactivity then how the fuck is he supposed to know there has been a miscommunication between the lead team? Maybe the reason you didn’t know about it was because you didn’t confront him about the issue and t could have easily just been said that he was unable to join the server. It also looks like he messaged you as a precautionary measure

House wrote:

Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.

They did confront him about his inactivity based on this.

Yea clearly. :omegalul:

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064570

House wrote:

Xerceas wrote:

Kyber wrote:

House wrote:

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Seargent44 wrote:

House wrote:

Meh, telling me that you lost interest in TTT but now saying that you changed after there was no improvment in your activity, communication with the LT whatsoever I personally thought that you just lost interest in staffing but for some reason didn't want to resign so bringing that up now seems kinda shady to me.

Activity in the past 30 days [ Click to expand ]

Even if you you're not home the whole week except for sundays then why do we not know about it?
All I know is that there is some kind of problem with your Gmod and if you need to reinstall it in order to get it working again
then you could've done that during the week.
Considering that you came up with that excuse two times in a row & considering that you messaged me 3 hours before the meeting when it was already too late to even get your minimum time and in addition to those
points you have been struggling to get your time for more than 4 weeks now aaand that you told me that you had lost interest, I felt that a demotion was reasonable.

By the way I don't really get why you think that I was the one who may or may not brought you up, but even if I did there was a vote on you, like its not that anyone could get you demoted single handedly.

Edit: About that "I wasn't warned" thingy:

You have been officially warned for inactivity on 18/11/2018, so imo you had enough time to tell us that you'd like to go on inactivity, that certaint changes in your life came up and you're only able to get on the server on weekends etc etc but all of that didn't happen, so I honestly don't really get what you are on about.

Edit 2: Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.
So yet again, a lack of communication on your side honestly, like.. I'm sorry but atm thats how I see this situation..

Here’s the thing house, hopefully this enlightens things that you haven’t seen, to what I remember I was aware of fives only sundays thing and since his been staff for so long I don’t blame him for not telling the new LT about his timings aaa I’d see it obvious when they are on as you work alongside them

2 ok this may not be true but it may be he might not have access to his pc/laptop till Sunday or Saturday for whatever reasons

And lastly I’d like to remind you guys that it’s holiday season and has been the past few weeks from thanksgiving so I’m not surprised if there is less staff on as come on guys you have to just let holidays slide as fives was a really dedicated admin sometimes people need a break and also we are all humans and can forget things

Well Seargent you basically just proved my point of a lack of communication, like I said, I nor any other LT members who were present during the meetings of the official warning and the demotion were aware of this, but thats like not our fault as he didn't tell us about it.
And if someone is busy with their reallifes then that is not an issue at all, but if they don't care to tell us about it then what are we supposed to do in all honesty?

If you didn’t ask if he had a reason for his inactivity then how the fuck is he supposed to know there has been a miscommunication between the lead team? Maybe the reason you didn’t know about it was because you didn’t confront him about the issue and t could have easily just been said that he was unable to join the server. It also looks like he messaged you as a precautionary measure

House wrote:

Also the week after you were officially warned Henny tried to contact you, that was on 25/11/18, because you didn't get your time again, to which apparently you did not respond.

They did confront him about his inactivity based on this.

Yea clearly. :omegalul:

Plus he got an Official were he didnt told us aswell.

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064670

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1064844

I new he was inactive i put it on the spreedsheet but i was not there to vote	Harry RDM Squatta Offline Expert Boarder Ex TTT Superadmin \| Ex Deathrun Admin Posts: 1169 Thanks received: 294 Karma: -18
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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1065366

I would just like to point out this is exactly why we have a staff discussion section. zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/staff-dis...f-discussion-section

So that you can post your inactivity reason in there and not have to worry about having sent one person a message. If you had put a thread in there describing your reasoning for being inactive and when you were planning on returning. You more then likely would not have been demoted. If you really care about being a staff on the server then you shouldn’t leave stuff like this to chance and publicly inform the community about your absence.

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1065421

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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 11 months ago #1066336

And they say this is the most wonderful time of the year. RIP fives. LT you corrupt grinches	Jax Offline Expert Boarder That's the way it is. Posts: 849 Thanks received: 294 Karma: 1
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[TTT] Fives’ Demotion Appeal 5 years 10 months ago #1076002

Your appeal was reviewed in todays TTT LeadTeam meeting. The LT members who were present have come to the conclusion to deny your appeal because the demotion was given appropriatly and you haven't been active on TTT since. Thank you for making this appeal. ~ lock ~	House Offline Legendary Member The best thing on Earth? Coffee. Posts: 1026 Thanks received: 541 Karma: 3
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