TOPIC: [SSRP] Suggestion *Votes* 106 Yes. So? Overview?

el une spodermun wrote:
No keep mining for milkors/rpg and those stuff.

Plankton wrote:
Nice explanation/example

bump- ps not my post just want more people to see it

OptiC wrote:
Can we try and keep the debate civil? There is absolutely no need to come on here and call someone else out using swear words left right and center. Calling the content "shitty" and all the rest of it. Why not have a proper debate and try to get your points across in a positive manner?

We always take server suggestions seriously and take a look at every one. Some suggestions have come recently with a clear plan about who will be coding and developing for them and they've been accepted straight away. Look at Prop Hunt for example they had a clear plan and a team in place and are already 2nd in category, they put in a lot of hard work and I think it's fantastic.

On the topic of the economy, we understand your concerns and that's why we took the time to look at the real numbers and figures. You can take a look at them here: zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/general-d...-please-read/unread/

To answer Plankton he made some great points. But on the topic of other games with virtual economies or even progression based MMOs absolutely none of them have ever launched a vanilla style server or rebooted the economy, you can probably think of the reason why you wouldn't do this in a progression based game. The exception is Runescape, they have millions of players however lets not forget. Warcraft has no official vanilla server I don't know where you got this information from, Blizzard has been very clear that such servers are private, illegal and most definitely not endorsed by the owners of the game.

So, that leaves us with just one game, here's a list of games which haven't done this and have no such plans to, it's a long list so i'll put it in a spoiler.

@Chute, but this suggestion is to make a new server with a new economy, not to reset the economy?

lMichaell wrote:
Yes I understand. The list of games has already been checked, none of them have either rebooted their virtual economy at any point or launched a new economy on a separate game/server.

Chuteuk wrote:
Ok, let's chill then. I've been drinking lately so... I played zarp since like 3 years ago with my irl friends ok? It was extremely fun back then basing, no op stuff, rdming and all of those good stuff. I want it to be back you know, and tons more aswell, so why not implement it? Gmod is the only game I play, sometimes csgo maybe. All I want is zarp being great again.

+1 Plankton, there comes a point where if you keep updating and adding to much op shit, you are actually ruining the main core of the actual game. Runescape is a perfect example of this, they kept adding stuff, and people grew tired of it, they killed pking which resulted in people quitting the game.
Runescape listened tho, and they went back to the 2007 version that people wanted, all we want here is a 2015 version of Zarp, where you dont have suits and afk mining. It's a very simple idea that a lot of players would like to have, and quite frankly a lot of players would start playing again.
At this current state people are being rewarded for afk mining, it's a stupid concept that literally thrives people away from the actual base/raid/rp/having fun, you can already see the effects this has, there is little to no bases at all times throughout the entire day, because there is simply no point in basing anymore, mining is more money, its more safe, and it's less you have to pay attention to. Whereas basing you would get killed by rich people using suits and overpowered explosives. This is coming from a player who has been on Zarp since 2013, who has seen the good and bad things in Zarp, but 2015 zarp was definitely the best time, back then there was tons of big bases that were hard to raid, that you had to get your lads on to raid, and it was great fun. Nowadays you can solo raid everything easily with the help of suits and other op factors.

I think this is very unfair to say the least, since nowhere in the suggestion template it is stated the things you should include and the things you shouldn't include. By all means Optic followed the rules in the suggestion template, therefore I find it very obscure that you can deny a suggestion that a majority of the community would want back, simply because you dont think the suggestion is made properly. The players voted fair and square, if anything you can reset the poll and make the questions a bit more clear, and I bet you they would vote the same, people read the post, they know what they voted for.

- At the end of the day, this suggestion comes down to the fact that your players are afraid that the server is going to a wrong path, it's going to a path where people are rewarded for afk mining, and not basing, which means that people will priotize mining>basing, which has a lot of negative effects which you can already see take place.

If you accept/deny the post I dont really care, but remember everyone should be able to voice their opinion and we should respect that

Jacob wrote:
hey guys i went to school today with my 1 account on and an iridium pickaxe and came out with this [SHOP] You sold 1207233 Gems for $31,388,058
not only did i make profit from the iridium pickaxe I lost I made 21 mil more!

Chuteuk wrote:
I said private servers, I know its not owned by blizzard but that don't change the fact that they still get thousands of players play on them. All I'm trying to do is get a point across that rerolled servers/ games can still be popular and runescape don't have millions of players when they rerolled their servers the had only a few thousand active players

And you could also take rust into account, they have vanilla servers that get reset weekly and people still play on them actively

How do u guys type/read so much what the hell

OptiC wrote: we go to school

zarpgaming.com/index.php/forum/10-announ...51-server-2-map-poll


Prime example to never go with what people vote and let the owners do whats best for the server.. The server at its current state is in the top 10 best DarkRP Servers, so that alone shows that its doing great and better than ever before.

OptiC wrote: The RDM is something that's always been there, there is no way in stopping RDM from occurring. But yes, I would love to be able to play the server like how it was before the hand cannon being released (December 2015), now you may say people still based after the release of the hand cannon which is true however a hand cannon will just eliminate a base within a matter of seconds even after the nerf it had. Basing was very common and indeed was very fun since there was no elevator bases so it was balanced. Even though elevator basing is no longer allowed, the newer special weapons and suits are stronger and can take out a ground base with people inside within seconds by just a few shots with these new content to be honest, regardless of the gang protection that shit is just practically useless nowadays unless you're using more of a old school special weapon to eliminate a base. It's more better to fight a intensive combat with just a PSG/SVU and morphine + amphetamine and taking out a base with a special weapon such as the TGun when that actually had value so I would love to see a return of how things used to be although it'll most likely won't happen based upon what Chuteuk has said (Which really sucks in my opinion, I would love to play the classics again).

Plankton wrote:
I understand your reasons for wanting a Vanilla server, and the figures of the amount of players on the illegal WarCraft servers can easily be disputed, however taking WarCraft as a great example again, Blizzard have openly said that the topic of opening official vanilla servers has been widely debated amongst their own internal teams.

And they've given a detailed reason as to why they won't be implementing it, or haven't so far, and it's because there are enormous challenges both technically and socially with trying to update, support and allow players to distinguish between two versions of the same game.
Who do you propose re-codes the gamemode to allow for what you want and provide updates it?
How do you propose solving the issue of players not being able to distinguish between the servers? There's going to be confusion on a huge scale particularly because the proposal is for the exact same gamemode to be used.

These are all issues Blizzard themselves have said would be an enormous challenge in launching Vanilla warcraft.
In-fact they said their preferred solution was to continue updating the main world with new features that helped capture the nostalgia of the original game. And we as look forwards, not backwards, to our servers its definitely a possibility to update and re-work some features to deliver just that.

remove suits and afk mining

Jacob wrote:
Remove basing and raiding

Chuteuk wrote:
Remove bank raids and shop owner

Jacob wrote:
Remove the server