TOPIC: [SSRP] Suggestion *Votes* 106 Yes. So? Overview?

AceInsidious wrote:
Remove Garry's Mod

Chuteuk wrote:
Remove internet

Chuteuk wrote:
Remove Steam

Sorle wrote:
Remove computers and laptops

What Chute is saying here is that you guys saying "Remove AFK Mining and Suits" is just an opinion, which is welcomed, but it can be flipped on itself by saying "Remove x and y".

Morgan wrote:
really didn't realise that

Morgan wrote:
Absoloutely.

Take a look at the Blizzard forum, take a look at the GTA: Online forums. You'll see people wanting "vanilla" servers, you'll see people wanting X new feature added. You'll see people wanting Y feature removed.

You can't make everyone happy all the time. So we look at the figures, the numbers of what features people are using, what items are being used the most, what's not getting used at all and try to produce updates for the many and not the few whilst trying to take everyone's point of view into account, quite a challenge to say the least.

Chuteuk wrote:
You say you can't make everyone happy, but this would be an optional server for people who want to join and to try out?
I don't see how this doesn't make everyone happy, people who wants suits keep suits people who don't want suits go to S4 and don't have suits?

You can't make everyone happy but surely it makes sense to go with whatever has the most votes, by not doing it your making the majority of the community unhappy...

lMichaell wrote:
And then we launch server 5 for people who still want mining but not suits.

And then server 6 for people who don't want shops?

You've got to remember we've already launched Server 2 and Server 3 based on suggestions by the community and are already catering to a wide variety of play styles across these different maps.

As I said we can't make everyone happy all the time, so let's try to produce updates for the many and not the few instead.

Plankton wrote:
Not really,

Let's use Minecraft as an example.

They promised so much, rushed a vote that guy a LOT of positive support and yes votes. Look where that ended up, it wasn't coordinated or planned and it crumbled. Just because something has a lot of yes votes, doesn't mean we should flick the switches and set sail.

So 110 people voting yes is the minority?

Anyway this is a completely biased poll, so any arguments used relating to this poll are completely invalid. Users are persuaded by the poll creater to vote a certain way thus making the poll invalid. I suggest that if you want a server 4 start off by making a non-biased poll.

lMichaell wrote:
There are 2,400 Players that join across S1, S2, S3 per day. 17,000 per week. That is a vast minority.

CaptinF1rework wrote:
This is kinda bs tho. Since it doesn't say anything about this in the suggestion template. All suggestions are biased, as you are trying to change something, and you give a reason to why it needs a change = Biased.

Jacob wrote:
No this is fact and polls should be fair and unbiased. In real votes ballot papers don't give opinion.

Jacob wrote:
Jabbe, me and Chute told you the same thing yesterday.

The Question makes no sense, nor do the voting options. It shouldn't need to be in the Suggestion Template as it's common sense if you're going to post a poll to at least make it clear and not vague to the point of confusing users voting on the poll. Not all suggestions are bias, for example:

- Yes
- No

The one we're looking at now is completely vague, the question makes no sense and it is confusing the voters.

Morgan wrote: Lets say s1 reaches peaks at 100 players on a weekend
If this poll gets 110 yes votes, do you not think at least 80 players would be active on it?
Thats a lot more than s2 since all people do there is AFK mine.

lMichaell wrote:
There's more to a server than that. The point is this poll can get as many yes votes, it could have a thousand, no outcome.

You guys need to go back to the drawing board over the course of a few months getting a detailed plan, and very in-depth post similar to Xnator's for Prop Hunt.

Until there's a post with a clear question and voting options, with a detailed plan, you won't have a shot at this.

CaptinF1rework wrote:
This is absolutely correct. Whilst there is nothing wrong with a petition style poll, Plankton, you seem to be confusing a petition with a referendum, this poll is by no means a referendum of the people of this community.

Imagine the EU referendum ballot paper, reads as follows:

LEAVE EU NO SNGLE MKT 50% LESS LAW
There should be no EU membership
There shouldn't

Let's leave aside the fact that stating this question to the public would be illegal under laws governing referendums in the UK. It's not clear what people are voting on at all.

There's nothing wrong with having a petition. And when you state you want people's support on something and give your reasons why that's called a petition and not a referendum.

There's a petition with millions of votes of people who want to overturn the result of the EU referendum with a second referendum, a petition created infact by someone who wanted to leave that doesn't now mean everyone wants to overturn the result.

Let's be clear on the difference between a petition and a referendum.