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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #566954

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Suggestion Title: Fixing the Economy.

How would it benefit the server: Fix this broken economy.

Potential Issues/Exploits: None that I can see.

My plan:
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To fix the problem at hand, we need to remove money from the people( in a decent way).
My proposition is to remove both gun dealer jobs, and create npcs to their job, this would remove money from the server quickly everyone needs a gun. Sniper Rifles would be the most expensive weapons sold, this might kill two birds with one stone in my eyes, while fixing the economy it would remove the ludicrous amount of snipers in-game and improve the RP element.

Even with this the economy would only heal if more cash is spent on guns then printed, so this alone is not good enough.
I also propose a Server Wide Mandatory Lottery or SSMT (also called Zarp Tax or ZT), every week a percentage of total cash(Total Cash = Wallet Cash + Bank Cash) would be removed from players and they automatic enter the SSMT. The SSMT is based on 9 random generated numbers, each player has a unique ID made of those 9 number, every week three random numbers(made of the 9 numbers) are generated and three prices are awarded.

Example:

Mfbraz - 000000001
Archick - 696969696
Morgan - 666555666
...and so on...

on game night (saturday night) a random generator picks 3 IDS, first ID generated is First prize and so on until the 3rd.

First Prize - 25% of total cash betted.
Second Prize - 10% of total cash betted.
Third Prize - 5% of total cash betted.

So every week we are removing 40%(40%=25%+10%+5%) from the percentage of total cash in zarp. In the end it might look like this:
(its an example)

Total cash In zarp(Globally): $100,000,000,000

Betting day:
$100,000,000,000 * 0.1(assuming that the betting percentage is 10% of players total cash)=$10000000000


Saturday Night Price Night:

1st - $2500000000
2nd - $1000000000
3rd - $500000000

Total Money on prizes -
$4000000000
Total Money that Gets burnt - $6000000000(THAT'S 6% OF TOTAL CASH IN ZARP)

With system we fix the economy and make 3 players really happy every week.

Additional notes:

I hope you guys can understand my ideas, has its late has fuck and im sleepy has fuck.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #566961

Removing the Gun dealer isn't The problem here
It's the AFK- Mining.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #566981

You say that the problem is that people print huge amounts of money but you have not suggested anything relevant to that. Even if we add your suggestion people will still be able to print that amount of cash.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #566986

Lower the percentage to %1, will remove it over long term but have no real big direct consequences.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #566988

I like this idea, however the numbers would need A LOT of tuning to find the sweet spot between losing all your money in a month and making some random person the richest in the server, and taxing an amount so meager that you still make money simply from interest in the bank. Also, it is fundamentally flawed, as there are a lot of inactive/banned players, however this should be somewhat easy to work around.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #567207

AA RFLeX wrote:
You say that the problem is that people print huge amounts of money but you have not suggested anything relevant to that. Even if we add your suggestion people will still be able to print that amount of cash.
Yes and they should, but if money is pumped into the economy inflation will continue to rise. There needs to be a Tax that "burns" money out of the servers to keep the economy controlled.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #567217

Even better soloution add a really cool new system for some sort of cosmetic and make them cost a lot of money and also make them that good many people will want them.

Draining cash effectively.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #567223

Wizardspoopsalot wrote:
Removing the Gun dealer isn't The problem here
It's the AFK- Mining.
Remove miners ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #567306

Bigwhal wrote:
Wizardspoopsalot wrote:
Removing the Gun dealer isn't The problem here
It's the AFK- Mining.
Remove miners ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Thinking outside of the box heh.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #567727

Im still doing research on the miners and AFK miners. I will updated you when i get something usefull.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568645

I've been reading your comments, talking to you on the server. And I understand the idea of losing 10% of your cash on a weekly basis is a big sign for concern, but we, the ZARP community must remember that the economy is at a crisis point. The inflation in ZARP is rising with no signs of stopping. To counter this measure money must be taken out of the server and the only possible ways to do it are Gun Dealer NPC's and/or Tax's. Both are equally terrifying but this problem must be solved.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568704

Is it that time of the year again?
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568707

Mfbraz wrote:
I've been reading your comments, talking to you on the server. And I understand the idea of losing 10% of your cash on a weekly basis is a big sign for concern, but we, the ZARP community must remember that the economy is at a crisis point. The inflation in ZARP is rising with no signs of stopping. To counter this measure money must be taken out of the server and the only possible ways to do it are Gun Dealer NPC's and/or Tax's. Both are equally terrifying but this problem must be solved.

You're talking like it's going to be the end of the real world if the economy isnt fixed, holy shit
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568708

ParaMontana wrote:
Is it that time of the year again?

Instead of making "funny" rraxtions and acting like nothing is going on, actually take a look at the current economy. I know that some HA will reply with "economy is not broken", but that's just because they were programmed that way by you lot. The item shop was a good way to drain cash btw, gotta give you that, but not enough. Cosmetics have been suggested countless times, and, like every other suggestion, were fully ignored. Add custom csgo knifes or cool hats, something that'll make people spend their money. Make them untradeable too.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568710

The economy isn't suffering from inflation, there's just a lot of people gaining a lot of money with nothing to spend it on. Inflation would propose that the items would be rising in price as a result of the currency not being valued as much but that isn't the case as items currently remain around the same price margin regardless of people getting richer.

Even in the case of the economy being inflated it wouldn't really have an impact as most of the big issues that arise due to inflation in real cases are not applicable at all to a fictional game currency.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568720

BremFM wrote:
ParaMontana wrote:
Is it that time of the year again?

Instead of making "funny" rraxtions and acting like nothing is going on, actually take a look at the current economy. I know that some HA will reply with "economy is not broken", but that's just because they were programmed that way by you lot. The item shop was a good way to drain cash btw, gotta give you that, but not enough. Cosmetics have been suggested countless times, and, like every other suggestion, were fully ignored. Add custom csgo knifes or cool hats, something that'll make people spend their money. Make them untradeable too.

i just cannot take topics like this serious.
People do little to research on how things work.
yeah, i do agree we don't have enough money drains that are really worth it. apart from the new rare item store
But this guy has not done any research on our economy and just jumps onto the bandwagon of let's fix the economy while it does not need fixing.

Your entire tax/' betting system will never be used.
Zarp will never forcefully take money off you if you do not want that to happen.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568723

Tyler Durden wrote:
The economy isn't suffering from inflation, there's just a lot of people gaining a lot of money with nothing to spend it on. Inflation would propose that the items would be rising in price as a result of the currency not being valued as much but that isn't the case as items currently remain around the same price margin regardless of people getting richer.

Even in the case of the economy being inflated it wouldn't really have an impact as most of the big issues that arise due to inflation in real cases are not applicable at all to a fictional game currency.

Me and Mfbraz where talking about the idea of a reset option within the game that gives benefits upon activation.
The resets could be stacked to gain benefits, Different rewards for reseting with total cash amounts.
20m to 50m: Character Customisation
50m to 100m: Health and damage boost (All weapons)?
100m to 250m: Not decided
250m to 500m: Not decided
500m to 1b: Not decided
It's a idea that is still in development stages hence the lack or rewards for later amounts. We believe this kind of system would give richer players something to spend cash on and give poor players another goal to achieve.
Again this is still in early stages and will probably change entirely but either myself or Mfbraz will make a suggestion post/poll about it when it is thought through and completed.
EDIT: Upgrades from reset would be stacked with each level. Resetting at 500m would get all upgrades from 25m, 50m, 100m, and 250m with it's own set also/
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568724

What makes you think the economy is so broken. You dont even have 100m on your account right now.

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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568725

AA RFLeX wrote:
What makes you think the economy is so broken. You dont even have 100m on your account right now.


You don't need to be rich to think the economy is broken.
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[Suggestion] Fixing the Economy. 6 years 11 months ago #568726

Wizardspoopsalot wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
What makes you think the economy is so broken. You dont even have 100m on your account right now.


You don't need to be rich to think the economy is broken.
If it was broken wouldnt he have more than 300m? Thats solid evidence that its not that broken.
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