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TOPIC: [SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks

[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374322

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Suggestion Title:

Start accepting refund requests for direct rulebreaks.

How would it benefit the server:

Less angry players, people would be alot more satisfied and not angry when they loose valuable items due to rulebreaks.

This would of course have some requirements, the requirements would be but not limited to :

* The user who broke the rule must have been taken care of administrive ether in-game or trough a ban request.

* The lost item(s) would need to exceed $5,000,000 in-game money

* Proof must be provided of the lost items and that the user has been taken care of adminestrively

The last requirement would require users to have video evidence of them having the item and loosing it to a rulebreak. The only proof you would need to show that it has been taken care of administrively is having a staff member verifiying it or linking your ban request.

EXAMPLE REFUND REQUEST TEMPLATE :
Name: 
Steam ID:
Time / Date of when it happened:
Item/s lost:
Proof of lost items *Video/demo* :
Name of staff member who handled the situation :
Proof of the situation being handled *Link / Staff Response *
Story:
Additional comments :

Potential Issues/Exploits:

Pros :

More satisfied users
Less rage when you loose a valuable item as you can get it back
People would stop revenge rulebreaks because of the anger they had when they got RDMED with a thundergun

Cons :

A bit more forum work for Super Admins +
Super Admins + would need to be somehow oriented on the in-game items prices.

Additional notes:

OWNERS :
Atleast let this get discussed within the community and listen to the players like you normally do :)
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374324

Good idea because many people are losing expensive things and same with me, I lost a Handcannon last time I was on because I got CDMed...
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374325

Super admins can't touch/spawn things anymore.Head admins and owners.It actually would be good but don't think will happen.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374327

Holly Banker wrote:
Super admins can't touch/spawn things anymore.Head admins and owners.It actually would be good but don't think will happen.

Super Admins and above would have permission to accept refund requests but however for obvious reasons only head admins and above can refund the player.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374330

Ok I support and dont support
Pro - people will be happy that they got their shit back.
Con - if this gets accpeted how many people will you think will try to get their shit back their will be hundreds of people and it will be a shitton of work.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374332

Kmo wrote:
Ok I support and dont support
Pro - people will be happy that they got their shit back.
Con - if this gets accpeted how many people will you think will try to get their shit back their will be hundreds of people and it will be a shitton of work.
Thats the reason why the item(s) lost need to exceed a price limit, $5,000,000 is just an example the owners would need to figure out the exact price themselves
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374344

Bilbo Swaggins wrote:
THIS IS ALSO A DISCUSSION POST FEEL FREE TO ADD PROS / CONS IN COMMENS


Server Name:
SSRP

Suggestion Title:

Start accepting refund requests for direct rulebreaks.

How would it benefit the server:

Less angry players, people would be alot more satisfied and not angry when they loose valuable items due to rulebreaks.

This would of course have some requirements, the requirements would be but not limited to :

* The user who broke the rule must have been taken care of administrive ether in-game or trough a ban request.

* The lost item(s) would need to exceed $5,000,000 in-game items

* Proof must be provided of the lost items and that the user has been taken care of adminestrively

The last requirement would require users to have video evidence of them having the item and loosing it to a rulebreak. The only proof you would need to show that it has been taken care of administrively is having a staff member verifiying it or linking your ban request.

EXAMPLE REFUND REQUEST TEMPLATE :
Name: 
Steam ID:
Time / Date of when it happened:
Item/s lost:
Proof of lost items *Video/demo* :
Name of staff member who handled the situation :
Proof of the situation being handled *Link / Staff Response *
Story:
Additional comments :

Potential Issues/Exploits:

Pros :

More satisfied users
Less rage when you loose a valuable item as you can get it back
People would stop revenge rulebreaks because of the anger they had when they got RDMED with a thundergun

Cons :

A bit more forum work for Super Admins +
Super Admins + would need to be somehow oriented on the in-game items prices.

Additional notes:

OWNERS :
Atleast let this get discussed within the community and listen to the players like you normally do :)


:Support:

Lost over 100mil in items and recently lost A gamma, Tgun and 2x Portable emp's, This would be great because a lot of people who come on to minge want to do things like this to make us leave.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374345

Really Good Idea.Loosing items cause rulebreakers is really bad.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374374

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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374376

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There is flaws when you think of the same things over and over yes, but if you think outside the box like i did you can actually find a working system. Now if you want to please go ahead and read the whole suggestion and see the requirements needed for a refund request to be accepted and then make a remark.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374382

Sure why not, i mean it's just dumb how staff team removed it so u can't be refunded due to a rule break.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374387

More than just those cons
People fake it and make loads of cash with Quad boosted GPP
People always lose things due to rulebreaks and we have never refunded for it unless out of our own pocket.
Super Admins + will have loads of more work to do, many refund requests per day and always being bugged.
Photo shop can occur and I doubt the owners want to spend their time through the developer console looking to see if something is true for a Thunder gun.
There is a lot of things wrong with this that you guys fail to realize. If you are really thst uncareful to run around the streets with a hand cannon and get CDMD that's your own fault or be in the open. Be careful with your shit don't expect us to refund everyone because you were in the open with somehing expensive as its pretty rare to see someone come up and randomly shoot you in the back of a building than it is out in the open.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374391

Back when I was SA people always asked for refunds and I used the stuff in my own pocket. It got so annoying I just stopped as every day I'd come on to 5 or 10 people with videos of people being RDMS with a tgun out. I was rich enough to afford it but it was very annoying and tike consuming.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374392

ParaMonTroller wrote:
More than just those cons
People fake it and make loads of cash with Quad boosted GPP
People always lose things due to rulebreaks and we have never refunded for it unless out of our own pocket.
Super Admins + will have loads of more work to do, many refund requests per day and always being bugged.
Photo shop can occur and I doubt the owners want to spend their time through the developer console looking to see if something is true for a Thunder gun.
There is a lot of things wrong with this that you guys fail to realize. If you are really thst uncareful to run around the streets with a hand cannon and get CDMD that's your own fault or be in the open. Be careful with your shit don't expect us to refund everyone because you were in the open with somehing expensive as its pretty rare to see someone come up and randomly shoot you in the back of a building than it is out in the open.

First of all, your first con you can get rid off by limiting this to special weapons only. And second of all if you would actually read the full post its stated as an requirement you would need video evidence of you showing the weapon you loose and showing it was to a rulebreak either trough a video or a demo.

And no, its not rare at all that people loose expensive stuff to straight up rdms, not only will this make people happy but it will also encourage people to report rulebreakers which again will lead to the bad guys getting dealt with.

And stating super admins have loads more work to do is simply bullshit, they are on the forums every single day responding to threads and this would be not any harder than responding to a appeal or similar.

And tell me if one head administrator can run a system similar to this on a 80/80 server by himself aslong as having a part time job and going to college how can we not?
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374394

We don't always want players to report each other, we want them to try and talk it out with each other instead of straight up warning or banning them.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374397

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We don't always want players to report each other, we want them to try and talk it out with each other instead of straight up warning or banning them.

Rulebreaks should be reported so staff can know who break rules or not, we don't want staff who break rules so reporting rulebreakers is necessary.
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[SSRP] Accepting refunds of direct rulebreaks 7 years 8 months ago #374404

Video proof means nothing when it comes to getting a refund I know plenty of people who would get an alt banned just so they could blow up their printers or what ever else so they could finish for the night. The system is fine how it is and I would feel bad if I let you or anyone else waste any more of your time on thinking this would happen. We have already denied this multiple times in the past and its being denied now.

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