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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #752893

So i think it’s better to not give them a second chance and just ban them instantly when they get caught even if it’s the first time
They make excuses and say “sorry” when they get caught and they ruin our rp and know it’s not allowed to hack there are more then 10 sorry threads this month and i think it’s enough
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #752896

Hackers? Where, I do not see any.
Not a big deal!
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #752901

I agree, hackers who are active will always post things saying Sorry. Recently, an actual mod hacked, so I think we should ban too. Not permanently but perhaps for two weeks.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #752902

Sorry you seem confused, there are no hackers!
It is too difficult to see who is actually hacking EVERYONE at zarp is too good!
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #752912

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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753415

I think it should be 1st offensive is 2 weeks after that is perm with no chance to appeal it, If people realized that they couldn't ever get unbanned then I think the number of hackers would decrease substantially, feels like half the people who play use some sort of script, whether that be macros for bhoping or injecting something for aimbot or esp...
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753417

Zorri wrote:
I think it should be 1st offensive is 2 weeks after that is perm with no chance to appeal it, If people realized that they couldn't ever get unbanned then I think the number of hackers would decrease substantially, feels like half the people who play use some sort of script, whether that be macros for bhoping or injecting something for aimbot or esp...

This is coming from you, A person who has had his second offense. XD
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753418

Fred Wroolie wrote:
Hackers? Where, I do not see any.
Not a big deal!

You only don't see any when you don't do your job
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753419

Jawson wrote:
Zorri wrote:
I think it should be 1st offensive is 2 weeks after that is perm with no chance to appeal it, If people realized that they couldn't ever get unbanned then I think the number of hackers would decrease substantially, feels like half the people who play use some sort of script, whether that be macros for bhoping or injecting something for aimbot or esp...

This is coming from you, A person who has had his second offense. XD
But at the same time I've realized that I fucked up and chose to stop
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753427

A staff member hacking is a issue, but when 2 were caught in the space of a week now that's a fucking problem.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753430

Zorri wrote:
I think it should be 1st offensive is 2 weeks after that is perm with no chance to appeal it, If people realized that they couldn't ever get unbanned then I think the number of hackers would decrease substantially, feels like half the people who play use some sort of script, whether that be macros for bhoping or injecting something for aimbot or esp...

First off, Macros are allowed now and secondly, Once a player is perm banned, they will just make another account to do the exact same on.

I believe that if a staff member is caught cheating, they should be demoted, however that is not the policy, however, banning straight up, doesn't mean improvement.

If people want to cheat, they will cheat no matter what, it is as simple as that.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753452

they gave you a second chance
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753465

MORGAN IS BEST HACKER FINDER
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753468

Gotta admit fuck those hackers why would you gave them a second chance when they ruined everyone experience on zarp for real they don't deserve a second chance just perm ban them already.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753483

MantiCraft wrote:
MORGAN IS BEST HACKER FINDER
NoNoNoNo
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you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753485

I believe EMP asked for the opinion of another Community's Owner on the last "omg we need to perm ban hackers" thread. Him and Chute have over 10 years of experience together and they've noticed thqt banning hackers immediately does not solve the issue, it makes it worse.

Hackers will always be here. If you permanently ban hackers on first offenses, they won't go to the forums like so many people expect. They'll be going on the servers again, but this time with an alt account.

Fighting against hackers is a losing battle, but with the current system we know at the very least what we're fighting exactly. At least that's what I understood from EMP's and Chute's explanation.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #753494

This rule of giving second chances happened when para got caught hacking and he was given a chance to stay as a sa so since people would complain if they instantly got banned they decoded to give everyone a chance ,,, sorry para i always bring you up love you really
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #753631

Raeker wrote:
I believe EMP asked for the opinion of another Community's Owner on the last "omg we need to perm ban hackers" thread. Him and Chute have over 10 years of experience together and they've noticed thqt banning hackers immediately does not solve the issue, it makes it worse.

Hackers will always be here. If you permanently ban hackers on first offenses, they won't go to the forums like so many people expect. They'll be going on the servers again, but this time with an alt account.

Fighting against hackers is a losing battle, but with the current system we know at the very least what we're fighting exactly. At least that's what I understood from EMP's and Chute's explanation.
You made it sound like a shitty anime XD
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #753677

Raeker wrote:
I believe EMP asked for the opinion of another Community's Owner on the last "omg we need to perm ban hackers" thread. Him and Chute have over 10 years of experience together and they've noticed thqt banning hackers immediately does not solve the issue, it makes it worse.

Hackers will always be here. If you permanently ban hackers on first offenses, they won't go to the forums like so many people expect. They'll be going on the servers again, but this time with an alt account.

Fighting against hackers is a losing battle, but with the current system we know at the very least what we're fighting exactly. At least that's what I understood from EMP's and Chute's explanation.

Isn't there something like a ip ban? that would work better wouldn't it for the trollers with no intent to rp. And btw the people that get banned always make an sorry topic so they prob would not want to stay banned and they know if they just come back with alts it's over for them so i dont know what the problem would be if we made the punishment higher they will always make an sorry topic and ban appeal.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #753679

bagciokan070 wrote:
Raeker wrote:
I believe EMP asked for the opinion of another Community's Owner on the last "omg we need to perm ban hackers" thread. Him and Chute have over 10 years of experience together and they've noticed thqt banning hackers immediately does not solve the issue, it makes it worse.

Hackers will always be here. If you permanently ban hackers on first offenses, they won't go to the forums like so many people expect. They'll be going on the servers again, but this time with an alt account.

Fighting against hackers is a losing battle, but with the current system we know at the very least what we're fighting exactly. At least that's what I understood from EMP's and Chute's explanation.

Isn't there something like a ip ban? that would work better wouldn't it for the trollers with no intent to rp. And btw the people that get banned always make an sorry topic so they prob would not want to stay banned and they know if they just come back with alts it's over for them so i dont know what the problem would be if we made the punishment higher they will always make an sorry topic and ban appeal.
If we would ban by IP hackers would use a VPN to bypass such a ban, it's not all that hard.

Secondly, only a small percentage of the actual hackers that are caught make an appeal and an even smaller percentage make a sorry topic. The assumption that every hacker in the community also actively partakes in it is simply false, something that could be supported by getting all hacker bans together and showing that the actual number of hackers are a lot higher than you might expect.
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