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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615499

Hello the staff team...hope you all haveing a nice day

first of all we need to talk about (SA)
SA has the ability to use anti cheat tools (same as HA) so they can spot cheaters and banned them
so you guys think that 6 SA is enough for 2 Servers (one of them never become empty its minecraft 24/7)
so please give other staff players chances to be SA because i rarelly see a SA on the server which give the cheaters the chance to cheat and run away i know that you gone say (what about anti cheat system)
its out dated out cheat and i rarelly see it spot cheaters so the only way to spot cheaters is with SA and HA (admins dont have anti cheat tools)

So enough already saying that 6 SA is enough and give the other staff team chance to become SA

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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615503

If the lead team of any server are in need of another lead team member to help out that's up to them and i'm sure if not then they're comfortable with how it's being run at the current time.	Morgan Offline Legendary Member Posts: 15970 Thanks received: 6527 Karma: 105
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615508

no one is comfrtable with that there are 2 solution for this 1-to give the admins anti cheat tools 2-to remove limits from the SA	Assassin Offline Junior Boarder Normal user ... Posts: 243 Thanks received: 29 Karma: 0
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615512

1. The Lead Team Do NOT want the Admin's to abuse the anti cheat command by using it unfairly. They can use it as jokes, spam the console and stuff like that. 2. There's a reason why there aren't a lot. First of, we do not need more because the ones we have, Are doing it's job. So we do not need anymore untill someone becomes Head Admin. Other then that, This situation is un-needed.	BananaSlanger Offline Diamond Boarder She's sad cause she believed He's ok cause he lied Posts: 3441 Thanks received: 478 Karma: 39
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615513

The anti-cheats are there not to be abused but to be ran on people who are suspicious if it were given to Admins there will be a few who will run it on anyone who kills them or just run it for the sake of using a command, this is not the point of it. There is also roughly an equal amount of staff members that can run an anti-cheat to that of Admins.

If you suspect someone of hacking contact someone that has access to the appropriate tools to deal with it, or record said player and if the proof is sufficient enough they will be banned.

Every Admin is able to apply for Super Admin as the applications are always open the lack of lead team being on during a certain timezone could be pinned on them but if you think about it they are busy too so the server really needs an Admin that covers that timezone to apply for Super Admin.

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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615519

Most of them time when there are cheaters and i try to contact a SA i found that they are all offline or away so most of people says that its a mircal that brenzor got accepted as SA so i really recommend to give the admins some anti cheats tools but if they abuse them there will be someone to spot them and make a demote request	Assassin Offline Junior Boarder Normal user ... Posts: 243 Thanks received: 29 Karma: 0
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615521

We have 6 Super Admins and 4 Head Admins. Currently, one of our latest Super Admins lives in the American timezone and when he isn't at work you can usually contact him easily to deal with hackers on the server.

You need to understand what exactly a Super Admin is and does - it isn't a regular rank like Moderator and Administrator that we hand out easily, and having a too big Lead Team wouldn't be good. They deal with all staff matters and situations, on the "side" they can also deal with hackers.

I am unsure why you're under the impression that we need more Super Admins, and I'm even more unsure why you think "nobody is comfortable with this."

If the Lead Team thinks that more Lead Team members are needed they'll decide that during the meeting. If they don't then surely at least they are comfortable with how things are currently ran.

You should also understand that the anti-cheat isn't perfect - often times someone asks me to come on to deal with a hacker and the anti-cheat doesn't show anything, making it extremely hard for the SA's and higher to do anything.

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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615522

Assassin23 wrote:

Most of them time when there are cheaters and i try to contact a SA i found that they are all offline or away so most of people says that its a mircal that brenzor got accepted as SA so i really recommend to give the admins some anti cheats tools but if they abuse them there will be someone to spot them and make a demote request

Regular users usually cannot tell that you're using an anti-cheat on them, so that argument is invalid.

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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615524

i mean there should be something that like auto kicking anti cheat system that when an admin spam with that it sends a messge to an owner or anyone from the lead team so the problem will be solved	Assassin Offline Junior Boarder Normal user ... Posts: 243 Thanks received: 29 Karma: 0
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615540

If you ever need help or suspect someone of cheating, just message one of us in the lead team. We currently have 6 SAs and 4HAs so I am sure someone will be able to come and help you. I will leave my steam below so you can add me if you haven't already, I am free most of the time and can hop online if needed! http://steamcommunity.com/id/hazzenator	hazzenator Offline Expert Boarder Posts: 1560 Thanks received: 656 Karma: -1
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #615779

I would just like to point out assassin, since you just recently came back, there is only one server now as server 2 was closed	brenzor9137 Offline Senior Boarder Ex - TTT SA Posts: 783 Thanks received: 395 Karma: 27
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #616657

today i was with wallhacking guy and i didnt found anyone TO HELP ME WITH HIM THATS WHY I RECOMMEND TO ADD ANTI CHEAT TOOLS TO ADMINS	Assassin Offline Junior Boarder Normal user ... Posts: 243 Thanks received: 29 Karma: 0
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #616661

The anti-cheat tool is only for the most trusted staff. It can easily be abused. If an admin had it and have only been staff for 1 month he could easily abuse it. There have been some admins that abuses and if they would get the anti-cheat tool they would be able to abuse even more. That's why we're only giving it and promoting our most trusted members.	Luki_Guki Offline Legendary Member guy Posts: 3991 Thanks received: 1394 Karma: 45
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #616688

Assassin23 wrote: today i was with wallhacking guy and i didnt found anyone TO HELP ME WITH HIM THATS WHY I RECOMMEND TO ADD ANTI CHEAT TOOLS TO ADMINS Add people on steam that are lead team makes it to 10x easier to spam them	DEADMONSTOR Offline Former Owner Posts: 9276 Thanks received: 3799 Karma: 80
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #616782

Just contact a lead team member if you suspect someone of hacking.	OnionRings Offline Community Manager Posts: 10869 Thanks received: 5656 Karma: -565
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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #616783

I remember writing this

The thing is C++ hacks are non detectable(without exploits) except what they are doing on the client.
Most of them have anti screenshot meaning you just get a screenshot without the visuals.

BHOP can be set to safe mode so that it misses some up sometimes making it look more legit.
The only way you are going to catch someone is if they admit or are really blatant about the situation.

Take an example of CAC it doesn't actually catch people who inject C++ hacks it just sees what they are doing and bases it on that.

LUA hacks are really easy to detect usually but some new C++ modules are making it harder to detect because of detouring certain anticheat hooks and functions.

EMP is right something would have to be implemented within GMOD to give LUA the ability to look at Pointers and memory access but this causes a lot of security issues

The thing is someone did make a pretty success full anticheat. It was called HeX and he was hated for it because there was exploits to do stuff like this

Fuckup("C:\\WINDOWS\\System32\\hal.dll")

Hex left GMOD because he was hated to do something that was nearly impossible. I was banned on that server for opening Extreme injector on my computer. It was a good anticheat but it uses exploits and that is why he left the community

He would also delete all non GMOD lua files and replace it with this

97 more pasted cheats on the drive, 97 more pasted cheats.
Wipe one out and pass it around, 96 more pasted cheats on the drive,

He would also remove all binds and change them to this

unbindall
bind "1" "slot1"
bind "2" "slot2"
bind "3" "slot3"
bind "4" "slot4"
bind "5" "slot5"
bind "6" "slot6"
bind "a" "+moveright; host_writeconfig cfg/autoexec.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "b" "+BT"
bind "c" "connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "d" "+moveleft; host_writeconfig cfg/autoexec.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "e" "+reload; volume 0.1; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "f" "noclip; connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "g" "kill; play uhdm/hac/really_cheat.mp3; say 76561198061161143 is a cheater!"
bind "i" "kill; play uhdm/hac/really_cheat.mp3; say 76561198061161143 is a cheater!"
bind "k" "+voicerecord"
bind "m" "kill; play uhdm/hac/really_cheat.mp3; say 76561198061161143 is a cheater!"
bind "n" "kill; play uhdm/hac/really_cheat.mp3; say 76561198061161143 is a cheater!"
bind "p" "headtrack_reset_home_pos"
bind "q" "connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/highway_to_hell.mp3; say IM ON A HIGHWAY TO HELL!"
bind "r" "+jump; volume 0.1; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "s" "+forward; host_writeconfig cfg/autoexec.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "t" "impulse 201"
bind "u" "messagemode"
bind "v" "impulse 100; kill; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "w" "+back; host_writeconfig cfg/autoexec.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "x" "+voicerecord; say DISAPPOINTED"
bind "y" "messagemode"
bind "z" "kill; play uhdm/hac/really_cheat.mp3; say 76561198061161143 is a cheater!"
bind "KP_END" "act cheer"
bind "KP_DOWNARROW" "act laugh"
bind "KP_PGDN" "act muscle"
bind "KP_5" "act robot"
bind "KP_RIGHTARROW" "act dance"
bind "KP_HOME" "act agree"
bind "KP_UPARROW" "act becon"
bind "KP_PGUP" "act disagree"
bind "]" "xgui"
bind "'" "say Djelmerit mother fucker"
bind "`" "play uhdm/hac/still_not_working.mp3; connect serverip; say I popped it!"
bind "/" "say <:3 )~"
bind "SPACE" "+menu; exec game.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "TAB" "+use; connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "CAPSLOCK" "+show"
bind "ESCAPE" "cancelselect"
bind "PAUSE" "pause"
bind "SHIFT" "+walk; exec game.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "ALT" "+speed; exec skill_manifest.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "CTRL" "kill; exec userconfig.cfg; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "F1" "connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "F2" "connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "F3" "connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "F4" "connect serverip; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say I cheat ban me for"
bind "F5" "jpeg"
bind "F6" "+ASS_Menu"
bind "F7" "undo"
bind "F8" "bind mouse1 +auto_looper; message1"
bind "F10" "play uhdm/hac/really_cheat.mp3; gamemenucommand quitnoconfirm; say And it aint even gonna complain!"
bind "F11" "afk"
bind "MOUSE1" "+attack2; sensitivity 90; volume 0.1; say Ive lost my marbles!"
bind "MOUSE2" "+attack; sensitivity 0.1; volume 1; play uhdm/hac/still_not_working.mp3; say Piece of shit!"
bind "MOUSE3" "kill; sensitivity 90; volume 0.1; say I AM A DIRTY CHEATER, BAN MY ASS!"
bind "MWHEELUP" "invnext; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say EIGHT!"
bind "MWHEELDOWN" "invprev; play uhdm/hac/eight.wav; say BURST ME BAGPIPES"

Sources:

https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1519380&p=50574091

https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1518872

https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1410855

https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1532532&p=50968173

https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1521519

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM1lj2CrjHI

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Staff discussion about SA and Cheats 6 years 10 months ago #616816

DEADMONSTOR wrote: Assassin23 wrote: today i was with wallhacking guy and i didnt found anyone TO HELP ME WITH HIM THATS WHY I RECOMMEND TO ADD ANTI CHEAT TOOLS TO ADMINS Add people on steam that are lead team makes it to 10x easier to spam them the hole lead team on my friend list and xnator always away he rarelly awnser my request	Assassin Offline Junior Boarder Normal user ... Posts: 243 Thanks received: 29 Karma: 0
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