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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595908

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Suggestion Title Refunds for rdm with valid proof

How would it benefit the server: If you get a video of someone rdming you for example losing a diamond pic and it was rdm i think you should be able to get a refund with valid proof without proof no refund but i think near enough everyone has been annoyed because they lose stuff to rdmers and i think it will be a positive change to the servers.

Potential exploits: People will try and get free items out of this which is why you need very good evidence to prove that you were rdmed and you should be able to get your item(s) back.

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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595911

No, there will be like 10000000000000 refund requests
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595914

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No, there will be like 10000000000000 refund requests
Works for PH (perpheads, not prophunt), and there's like 20x more ways in which you can lose items to rulebreaks. If they can do it, so can we. Just have a strict requirement of proof and employ a minimum amount of money lost in refund requests.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595918

People could find ways to exploit the system. Also, if there were refunds for rulebreaks, people could just walk around 24/7 with special suits or items on because they know as long as they are on the sidewalk and get killed, they would be refunded.
Eh, special suits aren't meant to be worn all the time.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595920

No because it could easily be abused. You literally lost a diamond lock pick/pickaxe so it isn't that big of a deal. The server does not refund for rule breaks. Sorry but it isn't the servers fault that you lost an item due to a player breaking rules. If i RDM someone with a M202 they would not get a refund because it is not the server/owners fault for the death and loss of item. Sorry but big :minussp:
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595921

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No because it could easily be abused. You literally lost a diamond lock pick/pickaxe so it isn't that big of a deal. The server does not refund for rule breaks. Sorry but it isn't the servers fault that you lost an item due to a player breaking rules. If i RDM someone with a M202 they would not get a refund because it is not the server/owners fault for the death and loss of item. Sorry but big :minussp:
Well everyone says it could be abused but no one states an example so would you like to give us one?
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595922

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People will exploit the system.
If I use a m303, about to die. My friend kills me and I refund it. Easy to NOT lose things.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595925

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No because it could easily be abused. You literally lost a diamond lock pick/pickaxe so it isn't that big of a deal. The server does not refund for rule breaks. Sorry but it isn't the servers fault that you lost an item due to a player breaking rules. If i RDM someone with a M202 they would not get a refund because it is not the server/owners fault for the death and loss of item. Sorry but big :minussp:
Well everyone says it could be abused but no one states an example so would you like to give us one?
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:minussp:

People will exploit the system.
If I use a m303, about to die. My friend kills me and I refund it. Easy to NOT lose things.

Here is a perfectly good one and the one i was going to state as well. It can easily be exploited.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595927

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AA RFLeX wrote:
Raifster123 wrote:
No because it could easily be abused. You literally lost a diamond lock pick/pickaxe so it isn't that big of a deal. The server does not refund for rule breaks. Sorry but it isn't the servers fault that you lost an item due to a player breaking rules. If i RDM someone with a M202 they would not get a refund because it is not the server/owners fault for the death and loss of item. Sorry but big :minussp:
Well everyone says it could be abused but no one states an example so would you like to give us one?
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:minussp:

People will exploit the system.
If I use a m303, about to die. My friend kills me and I refund it. Easy to NOT lose things.

Here is a perfectly good one and the one i was going to state as well. It can easily be exploited.
Not refundable as your friend killed you in a raid or in an attempt to defend a base.Making the death valid. Invalid point
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595934

Ezehzz wrote:
:minussp:

People will exploit the system.
If I use a m303, about to die. My friend kills me and I refund it. Easy to NOT lose things.
Then your friend gets a warn for RDM. Too much of them and you get banned.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595936

Not really though? You could get your friend to kill you and then make a refund request? You have no proof that they did it for those purposes so it could easily be exploited with how you die.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595938

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Not really though? You could get your friend to kill you and then make a refund request? You have no proof that they did it for those purposes so it could easily be exploited with how you die.
They will need video evidence for a refund.
There is no way someone could exploit this.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595947

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Not really though? You could get your friend to kill you and then make a refund request? You have no proof that they did it for those purposes so it could easily be exploited with how you die.
You just don't pull out a M303 to mess around, if you do it's for raids and if a friend kills you it means crossfire in raid so no RDM thxbye
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595953

I love how so many people are saying that it can be abused or exploitible, but no one can provide any good examples
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595960

Anyway here's an example that I don't agree with (someone made it on another post):
- Get your friend
- Let him raid you as a citizen
- You can quit the server without losing printers
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #595965

Therapist wrote:
Anyway here's an example that I don't agree with (someone made it on another post):
- Get your friend
- Let him raid you as a citizen
- You can quit the server without losing printers

Ask for 1 minute before the RDM and 1 minute after to be provided to make it sufficient evidence to see that it was not made just to be exploited.
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #596035

Therapist wrote:
Anyway here's an example that I don't agree with (someone made it on another post):
- Get your friend
- Let him raid you as a citizen
- You can quit the server without losing printers
That's not rdm tho, this rule is aimed towards RDM, meaning if someone kills you and when you die that will make you lose your item
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There should be refunds for rdm with valid proof. 6 years 10 months ago #596136

AA RFLeX wrote:
Raifster123 wrote:
AA RFLeX wrote:
Raifster123 wrote:
No because it could easily be abused. You literally lost a diamond lock pick/pickaxe so it isn't that big of a deal. The server does not refund for rule breaks. Sorry but it isn't the servers fault that you lost an item due to a player breaking rules. If i RDM someone with a M202 they would not get a refund because it is not the server/owners fault for the death and loss of item. Sorry but big :minussp:
Well everyone says it could be abused but no one states an example so would you like to give us one?
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:minussp:

People will exploit the system.
If I use a m303, about to die. My friend kills me and I refund it. Easy to NOT lose things.

Here is a perfectly good one and the one i was going to state as well. It can easily be exploited.
Not refundable as your friend killed you in a raid or in an attempt to defend a base.Making the death valid. Invalid point

If I have a gluon and a m303 on me, I have a 10m hit on me, My friends kills me before he (hitman) does = refund. Clearly not a good suggestion.
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