TOPIC: The Mod Prices

The mod price

I think that the mod price of $30 forever is to little depending on the abuse of mods, and most of the people who do buy mod are age ranged from 8-12 and in some point in there time have numerous demote appeals. And buy mod has it benefits (more money) but also has its downfall abuse.

So I think this would be better:

$15 for monthly

$25 for three months

$50 forever or $45/$40

With this people will think more carefully when buying mod and using it cutting abuse in half.

-Support Thats way to expensive no one will donate so the server wont make that extra money to improve it

afroguy8 wrote:
Either way I think the quality of our servers apart from quite some downtime, makes it worth the 50$. Especially with the practically unique gamemode.

I think people would still donate for mod considering they have spend money buying GMOD on steam as well. Their friends probably will pressure them as the player doesn't want to be the only one without VIP/MOD.

The 50$ is quite a high bar, and Agent should realise we can't higher it anymore at that point. Perhaps raise it with 10$ so we always have a 10$ to raise later on.

+support on terms

In the servers current state, maybe that's not a bad idea. +Support

thesamon wrote:
It's not the money that keeps the mods in tone though. It's the admins and staff manager Veritas.

They should be more concentrated on the mods their performance overall. That's the only way to fix this mod issue.

Actually i would support not selling mod at all (easy for me to say). But being objective as i usually am, i can't help but to realize the fact that Agentlulz and Zart want maximum value out of their feature.
So if you think about it: They found the price of mod that is a little expensive but sell very well.

• [size=2:3m2k3slb]If they increase the price they will decrease abuse, that doesn't make enough people leave the server -thus making it unprofitable. [/size]
• [size=2:3m2k3slb]If they decrease the price they will increase abuse even more while not many more people will buy the feature, than there is allready. [/size]

I'm not a business specialist, but i play poker so i know things about maximizing expected value. They want as much as they can get, and needless to say - that's what their doing. Don't think you can + or - support them off their business plan.
Of course if enough people left the community because of abusin mods, it would make a difference, and ten they might rethink prices. But until then i wouldn't set my expectations too high.

SimonBright wrote:
I've worked in marketing and online marketing in particular. Our player base is mostly from a younger group of player, which don't put much consideration to the fact they might lose their rank. They are usually also strongly opinionated about how well they follow the rules. Whilst in fact they are sometimes the worst players on the server.

Either way the 50$ will be paid, I see no psychological barriers in the amount increasing substantially. This for a couple of simple marketing guidelines.

Apart from that I don't think we should remove paid mod. The 'paying' is not such a big issue with abusing mods. Yes, they might be a little cockier then others because they took their wallets out.. but they can do fine with guidance. There is a great amount of admins being caught abusing to this very day. They were all promoted, no money involved.

It's all about teaching and being strict with them.

Money is not a factor.

Scottie wrote:
I can see the logic in that, however i did not know that there were many "non-paid" mods who abused. That was mainly a subconsious disconcern. But I think i've heard some talk about abusing mods.
It also makes sence that paid mods don't know much about being mod, since they haven't had to fill any form. They just pay an amount of money and there you go.
I guess you could programm some kind of tutorial to go through once promoted, that will teach the basics of being a mod.
But i'm still pretty sure increasing the price will decrease the sales. But that is not an unbuyest opinion (mean syou guys can take it or leave it xD)...

SimonBright wrote:

Well, as Simon said, i fully agree with him. And use Template next time.

Scottie wrote: Fair enough actually good point maybe still a bit to high but to raise them is a good idea so i agree with you on this one

"Either way the 50$ will be paid, I see no psychological barriers in the amount increasing substantially. This for a couple of simple marketing guidelines."

With the money increase people will think twice when doing something knowing that they are losing more money if they do get demoted.

Elmer J fap wrote:
I doubt it. The kids usually have enough money, and if they do abuse they won't realize. They are driven by acts of immaturity and this is something they cannot control. Thus the reason many mods are being demoted: because there is no learning them. They are just to hyper-active or young in mind to stick in their rank guidelines.

The purchase of mod is a one time thing, once they've bought it the care will slowly start disappearing as they get used to the feel of being 'mod'. Just like you don't care if you scratch your car after having it for 20 years. After all, you've already had your fun time with it.

"With the money increase people will think twice when doing something knowing that they are losing more money if they do get demoted."


"I doubt it. The kids usually have enough money, and if they do abuse they won't realize. They are driven by acts of immaturity and this is something they cannot control. Thus the reason many mods are being demoted: because there is no learning them. They are just to hyper-active or young in mind to stick in their rank guidelines."

"The purchase of mod is a one time thing, once they've bought it the care will slowly start disappearing as they get used to the feel of being 'mod'. Just like you don't care if you scratch your car after having it for 20 years. After all, you've already had your fun time with it."


Overall I think it is a difficult subject to touch upon, mod will always be available to buy (main income of the server). So I think if you bump up the prices for mod it will decrease mod abuse a bit more and if they do abuse "You're loss is our gain" type of situation.

Scottie wrote:
How can you claim that kids usually have enough money? I'd argue that even if their parents did pay the first 50$ for mod, they would not just do it again if the kid got demoted and asked nicely. That seems like common logic to me.
Besides i were never spoiled with money for these things, since we are throwing claims around i'm pretty sure european parents tend to be very technology pessimistic.
???

50 is way to much. yes spend 50% and then you can kick and get 2 or 3 extra jobs and vip printers yaaaaaaaaay.
No its way to much if you dont add mor stuff.

Dale wrote: You also get mod priviligues -.- They may be worth a little more in perspective.

SimonBright wrote:
Well yes but still some parents just have Paypal and that's it.

I agree with this. I mean like he said in the topic "8-12 people buying mod" I mean just a little bit ago a person named kick ass jack or something was just teleporting everywhere to everyone and killing them. Paid mod making people rage quit from the server. Unacceptable

This would help + support