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TOPIC: [DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words

[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413764

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Suggestion Title:
Remove the Mandatory use of 75 words

How would it benefit the server:
Does not pressure people to write more then they have to . Quality over quantity
Potential Issues/Exploits:
None.
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So as i want to start this suggestion off with stating that the only reason i am putting this out here is because i got a fellow staff member recently asking me if he would get denied if he did not use the 75 words minimum.
I was a little shocked when he asked me because i thought it was never mandatory in the first place.

I am a strong believer in quality over quantity and that you should not force someone to write a specific amount of words of why he or she should be promoted. It is a very normal thing that people are really bad about writing something positive about them selfs . I feel that it should be turned from mandatory to recommended.
BECAUSE our most popular server SSRP uses a recommendation and not a mandatory section for the amount of words needed.
The same goes for bhop at this moment they do not force you to write more then you want to.

LONG STORY SHORT
Instead of give at least 75 words.
to
We recommend around 75 words

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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413769

Don't know why it's been like this for so long	The Gamer Guy Offline Diamond Boarder ... Posts: 3894 Thanks received: 749 Karma: 20
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413772

That is a pretty good suggestion! I will bring it up in the meeting.	BiWx Voorhees Offline Legendary Member Riddim & DnB Posts: 2963 Thanks received: 666 Karma: 27
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413817

Dont see a reason to deny this as many people arent giving 75 words	rroobbiinn10xx Offline Diamond Boarder Zwarte piet is not racist Posts: 4052 Thanks received: 1739 Karma: 42
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413834

I really cannot see the problem in a measly 75 words, but that is also because I am used to writing and I am probably more intent on myself.

Anyhow I do not find this to be a problem, in most cases this last part is actually good to fill as it gives some individuality, the other questions are mostly answered the same way. Not like 100%, but it is not like the rules are different for every application.

If there is no individuality, is applications not going to become a place where thinking is not really neccessary. I can be wrong, most likely am, I have just always viewed the last part of an application to be one of the most important.

Especially since it is nice to read about people and their motivation.
(Few questions that are usually answered in that last paragraph)
- What makes me special?
- How can I help Zarp?
- What can I do to improve my own ability?
- Is my person fit to be on the staff team?
And many more.
Would you not inquire about such things?
Anyhow I stand at a neutral, I just wanted to give my perspective.
- Goodluck Para.

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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413836

From my prospective we want people who actually is willing to write more than they should, So I'm neutral on this one I'm afraid.	Jordz Offline Marvelous Boarder More Scottish than Aidan himself Posts: 10795 Thanks received: 2237 Karma: 129
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413866

Jordan,This is deathrun,not ssrp.You have more to say on ssrp than on deathrun.SSRP Has more to talk about. Quality over quantity,as Para said. I , myself , find it hard to get the 75 word limit,when I make an app.And you have to add some useless bullsht in there.	Marcooo Offline Diamond Boarder Posts: 3485 Thanks received: 465 Karma: 44
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413867

Lux wrote:

I really cannot see the problem in a measly 75 words, but that is also because I am used to writing and I am probably more intent on myself.

Anyhow I do not find this to be a problem, in most cases this last part is actually good to fill as it gives some individuality, the other questions are mostly answered the same way. Not like 100%, but it is not like the rules are different for every application.

If there is no individuality, is applications not going to become a place where thinking is not really neccessary. I can be wrong, most likely am, I have just always viewed the last part of an application to be one of the most important.

Especially since it is nice to read about people and their motivation.
(Few questions that are usually answered in that last paragraph)
- What makes me special?
- How can I help Zarp?
- What can I do to improve my own ability?
- Is my person fit to be on the staff team?
And many more.
Would you not inquire about such things?
Anyhow I stand at a neutral, I just wanted to give my perspective.
- Goodluck Para.

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Since this isn't ssrp,there are less players,and people that actually play,get to know the staff.We don't accept people that aren't trusted.

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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413869

OnAcidMarco wrote:

Lux wrote:

I really cannot see the problem in a measly 75 words, but that is also because I am used to writing and I am probably more intent on myself.

Anyhow I do not find this to be a problem, in most cases this last part is actually good to fill as it gives some individuality, the other questions are mostly answered the same way. Not like 100%, but it is not like the rules are different for every application.

If there is no individuality, is applications not going to become a place where thinking is not really neccessary. I can be wrong, most likely am, I have just always viewed the last part of an application to be one of the most important.

Especially since it is nice to read about people and their motivation.
(Few questions that are usually answered in that last paragraph)
- What makes me special?
- How can I help Zarp?
- What can I do to improve my own ability?
- Is my person fit to be on the staff team?
And many more.
Would you not inquire about such things?
Anyhow I stand at a neutral, I just wanted to give my perspective.
- Goodluck Para.

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Since this isn't ssrp,there are less players,and people that actually play,get to know the staff.We don't accept people that aren't trusted.

I do not see how trust has anything to do with people phrasing their sincere thoughts. This decision is solely up to you, but you say it like I only play ssrp....

Anyhow again goodluck Para.

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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413873

75words is not alot at all. Someone with the capability of being staff should easily reach that and be able to put in the effort.	TimeForPug Offline Adept Boarder Posts: 6768 Thanks received: 1213 Karma: -15
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413874

TimeForPug wrote: 75words is not alot at all. Someone with the capability of being staff should easily reach that and be able to put in the effort. I agree here. If you cannot find 75 word that are positive, or maybe even negative, about yourself that hold something to the candle, then one is not desiring it enough. And yes, no one said it can only be positive stuff in that paragraph.	Lux Offline Junior Boarder SSRP Senior Posts: 165 Thanks received: 18 Karma: 1
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413875

Lux wrote:

TimeForPug wrote:

75words is not alot at all. Someone with the capability of being staff should easily reach that and be able to put in the effort.

I agree here. If you cannot find 75 word that are positive, or maybe even negative, about yourself that hold something to the candle, then one is not desiring it enough.

And yes, no one said it can only be positive stuff in that paragraph.

why would you name any negatives on why you should be accepted or promoted LOL makes no sense.
alot of people have difficulties expressing them selfs its a common thing in the world.
I'd say make it reccomendation not mandatory

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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413877

ParaMontana wrote:

Lux wrote:

TimeForPug wrote:

75words is not alot at all. Someone with the capability of being staff should easily reach that and be able to put in the effort.

I agree here. If you cannot find 75 word that are positive, or maybe even negative, about yourself that hold something to the candle, then one is not desiring it enough.

And yes, no one said it can only be positive stuff in that paragraph.

why would you name any negatives on why you should be accepted or promoted LOL makes no sense.
alot of people have difficulties expressing them selfs its a common thing in the world.
I'd say make it reccomendation not mandatory

I suck at writing anything in general and tbh its super easy to write over 75words..

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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413879

The thing what im trying to get is. Many applicants do not meet the 75 words . but they dont get get denied for that reason. as far as i know If it is so mandatory then why is it not treated like mandatory there for i think it should be changed to recomended	ParaMontana Offline User is blocked Posts: 5541 Thanks received: 3172 Karma: -1047
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413880

ParaMontana wrote:

Lux wrote:

TimeForPug wrote:

75words is not alot at all. Someone with the capability of being staff should easily reach that and be able to put in the effort.

I agree here. If you cannot find 75 word that are positive, or maybe even negative, about yourself that hold something to the candle, then one is not desiring it enough.

And yes, no one said it can only be positive stuff in that paragraph.

why would you name any negatives on why you should be accepted or promoted LOL makes no sense.
alot of people have difficulties expressing them selfs its a common thing in the world.
I'd say make it reccomendation not mandatory

Here is why:
I aknowledge my mistakes, I especially have been a mass rulebreaker in the past. Mostly because fun was a side I enjoyed a lot. And it still is, but I can have fun whilst keeping inside the margins of the rules. Everyone makes mistake, I made more than others. Albeit I am not perfect, but I believe I have changed for the better. I also know the rules to the fullest and have been in so many sits that I can practically recall all ways to handle them, and all situations. I hope you will choose me because my attitude is not what it used to be. I have reformed over the past year.

^ Fictive reason, took me about 2 minutes on an ipad to write. This guy uses negatives to symbolise his positives.

PS. 114 words. I have checked applications and seen multiple below 500 words, and that is including the questions. If you do not ask of people to tell them what they can do, what if they cannot do anything.

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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413887

Thats a good way to do it. but im more talking about the fact that the 75 words was never treated in the meetings as a mandatory thing. though theoretically it is mandatory so its almost a double standard.	ParaMontana Offline User is blocked Posts: 5541 Thanks received: 3172 Karma: -1047
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413888

ParaMontana wrote: Thats a good way to do it. but im more talking about the fact that the 75 words was never treated in the meetings as a mandatory thing. though theoretically it is mandatory so its almost a double standard. True. But changing a few words probably will not have any effect. At least not in general.	Lux Offline Junior Boarder SSRP Senior Posts: 165 Thanks received: 18 Karma: 1
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413898

Quality over Quantity yes but its a guideline for how many words are necessary, and normally around the 75 mark is good enough Maybe changing it from "give at least" to "we recommend"	KapiJam Offline Diamond Boarder emotionally attracted to chuteuk Posts: 4646 Thanks received: 1148 Karma: 90
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413954

thats what im aiming for kapi	ParaMontana Offline User is blocked Posts: 5541 Thanks received: 3172 Karma: -1047
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[DR Suggestion] Change the give atleast 75 words 7 years 6 months ago #413957

ParaMontana wrote: thats what im aiming for kapi The we recommend sounds a lot better. If this is the case then it should definetely be changed to match.	Lux Offline Junior Boarder SSRP Senior Posts: 165 Thanks received: 18 Karma: 1
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