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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 7 months ago #401617

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Suggestion Title: Changing cop rule

How would it benefit the server: Easier for mods & admins to understand

Potential Issues/Exploits: Not really

Additional notes: I'm going to keep this sort considering my last post might have been hard to understand but the rule clearly states that There should always be an attempt to arrest a suspect unless; the suspect is resisting arrest or engaging in combat..

You may ask, but what difference does this make? It makes all of the difference considering 90% of the kills are thiefs vs cops and for that the rules needs to be as fair as possible. The rule should either be dealth with fairly or completley erased since it has no other function other than confusing people.

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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 7 months ago #401622

And how would deal with it fairly ?:
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401754

In all honesty, this would make the experience when playing as a cop much worse than it currently is.
Wanted people will just be able to kill you you when you are "near" them.


How would it benefit the server: Easier for mods & admins to understand
It really wouldn't, if anything it would lead to even more RDM, then the culprit could just claim the cop was "near" him.

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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401757

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If you near bank and they are near pd shooting or have wanted signs you should be allowed to shoot them, you have 0 chance running up to a group of 4 wanted gangsters with psgs to arrest.
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401764

What do you want the rule to be changed to exactly?
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401765

What do you want the rule to be changed to exactly?
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401795

Jenga wrote:
In all honesty, this would make the experience when playing as a cop much worse than it currently is.
Wanted people will just be able to kill you you when you are "near" them.


How would it benefit the server: Easier for mods & admins to understand
It really wouldn't, if anything it would lead to even more RDM, then the culprit could just claim the cop was "near" him.

Huge :minussp:
Lol the Experience as a cop is not bad if you know how to Play Correctly. If you're Only using Tazers You're obviously Gonna have a bad experience as its a Dumb Idea to run around with tazers. Use weapons Instead and You wont be having a shit experience.
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401831

Luan wrote:
What do you want the rule to be changed to exactly?

Removing it considering it has no effect
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401836

That would mean there is gonna be a big team deathmatch all over the place it hink there is servers for that if you perefer that kind of game play
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401838

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Lol the Experience as a cop is not bad if you know how to Play Correctly. If you're Only using Tazers You're obviously Gonna have a bad experience as its a Dumb Idea to run around with tazers. Use weapons Instead and You wont be having a shit experience.

The tazers are there for a reason. You should attempt to arrest a wanted player before killing them. If they start firing at you then youbare allowed to kill them.
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401839

Aspect wrote:
Luan wrote:
What do you want the rule to be changed to exactly?

Removing it considering it has no effect

Of course it has an effect, you're making no valid arguments as to why this is should be removed. That rule is in place following a large amount of people running around as cops shooting anyone that was wanted or anyone that did anything that broke the law regardless of what it was. Cops cannot ignore criminals, the rule means that cops can only shoot people if they're resisting arrest or if they're engaging in combat of some sort.

I'm not sure what you think this rule means but it has no relevance to your warning at all. The rule that relates to your warning is this one;
2.10 Self Defence - You can only defend yourself against cops who are actively trying to arrest or attack you whilst you're wanted.

As for why that rule is there it's there because of people thinking it acceptable to shoot any cop if they're wanted causing situations where a cop would get sniped by someone saying "I was wanted". Still if what you're saying was true and the person you killed was chasing trying to arrest you the kill was fine. If he wasn't you should've roleplayed it with /me in order to get him to leave or abide to your commands.

Seems like the issue is with how you think these rules work not the rules themselves.
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401841

Coutinroy wrote:
Mobile Task Force Gunner wrote:
Lol the Experience as a cop is not bad if you know how to Play Correctly. If you're Only using Tazers You're obviously Gonna have a bad experience as its a Dumb Idea to run around with tazers. Use weapons Instead and You wont be having a shit experience.

The tazers are there for a reason. You should attempt to arrest a wanted player before killing them. If they start firing at you then youbare allowed to kill them.
Yeah but its very risky. Almost 99% of the time You will get shot while waiting someone to be brought back up by the tazer also Its Really Inconsistent and If you miss It You'll Most likely die after. As a cop There are many Situations That give you a valid reason to shoot, Such as If a person is wanted and they have a gun out, You're Risking your Life Trying to taze him. Plus Using a weapon Against a Armed person is a bit of RP as in Real life You wouldn't Try to tase him, You would try to put him down.
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401850

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It is risky but it doesn't mean it's allowed within our rules. You are risking your life that's why you should be prepared for gun fire; if he has a gun out but isn't firing you don't have a reason to kill him. Also that's why you can make people wanted, to taze them when you shouldn't shoot them.
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401856

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It is risky but it doesn't mean it's allowed within our rules. You are risking your life that's why you should be prepared for gun fire; if he has a gun out but isn't firing you don't have a reason to kill him. Also that's why you can make people wanted, to taze them when you shouldn't shoot them.
Actually It is allowed as Multiple SA+ Staff Members Do it and They say that its allowed.
Also You're saying You should be prepared for gun fire, How though? If you have a taser out You're not ready for gun fire. If he has a gun out And hes wanted you have to Take into considiration that You're also Risking a Innocent Civillian's life. In the rules the Law Enforcment Units Are told to "Keep the Streets Free of crime" And "They dont have to ask why people are wanted". If the suspect has a Gun out and He started Evading arrest You're allowed to shoot him. Waiting for him to Fire is a dumb Idea as You might get yourself or someone else killed. If there is a opportunity To arrest him Then go for it Weather it be You Catching him off guard Or Somehow managing To arrest him. But If he is looking right at you With a gun Then You have a valid reason to shoot him, You can arrest but its risky and You're Better off By Just shooting him.
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #401864

Tyler Durden wrote:
Aspect wrote:
Luan wrote:
What do you want the rule to be changed to exactly?

Removing it considering it has no effect

Of course it has an effect, you're making no valid arguments as to why this is should be removed. That rule is in place following a large amount of people running around as cops shooting anyone that was wanted or anyone that did anything that broke the law regardless of what it was. Cops cannot ignore criminals, the rule means that cops can only shoot people if they're resisting arrest or if they're engaging in combat of some sort.

I'm not sure what you think this rule means but it has no relevance to your warning at all. The rule that relates to your warning is this one;
2.10 Self Defence - You can only defend yourself against cops who are actively trying to arrest or attack you whilst you're wanted.

As for why that rule is there it's there because of people thinking it acceptable to shoot any cop if they're wanted causing situations where a cop would get sniped by someone saying "I was wanted". Still if what you're saying was true and the person you killed was chasing trying to arrest you the kill was fine. If he wasn't you should've roleplayed it with /me in order to get him to leave or abide to your commands.

Seems like the issue is with how you think these rules work not the rules themselves.

Perfect now please tell me. If a cop is not ignoring the wanted criminal. By running into him, isn't he a valid target to shot then? Clearly you're not allowed to that...
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #402318

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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #402527

bumping til it's accepted
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #402572

Aspect wrote:
bumping til it's accepted

what if it's denied?
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Suggestion Change SSRP 7 years 6 months ago #402667

Coutinroy wrote:
Aspect wrote:
bumping til it's accepted

what if it's denied?

then i'll make another one :derp: :derp: :derp: :derp: :derp: :derp:
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