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TOPIC: [SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing

[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 2 hours ago #920880

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BAN BATON RUSHING

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Force police to use weapons over baton rushing

How would it benefit the server:

Better experience in combat against Police who can't play properly.

Potential Issues/Exploits:

Users not following the rule.
Complaints people can't aim.

Additional notes:

Please force cops to follow fearRP when it comes to arresting players, in no way should a cop ever come running at a group of people who are actively attacking them. Instead they should also be put in the situation that makes them also have to use a weapon, it's really starting to annoy me with the amount of cops who come running into a district nuke base or even just a base spamming their arrest stick.

The rule would be something similar to the police rule that allows cops to KOS wanted players rather than arresting:

Police/SAS/S.W.A.T/S.W.A.T Sniper/S.W.A.T Leader - These jobs are here only to keep the streets free of crime, this means you cannot be corrupt. There should always be an attempt to arrest a suspect unless; the suspect is resisting arrest, engaging in combat or raiding.

But would be read to something similar, for example:
Police/SAS/S.W.A.T/S.W.A.T Sniper/S.W.A.T Leader - These jobs are here only to keep the streets free of crime, this means you cannot be corrupt. There should always be an attempt to arrest a suspect unless; the suspect is resisting arrest, engaging in combat or raiding.

If the suspect is actively shooting at you, you must make an effort to shoot back and should not run at the suspect trying to arrest them (tasering first would negate this), read rule 2.7 for more. If the suspect is sufficiently distracted an arrest attempt may be made.


Please note I've never really written rules for role play servers before so this may be worded poorly, obviously if this was ever to become a change I imagine it would be worded very differently.

EDIT: You could also add a delay per swing so the user can only swing the stick say once every 2 seconds.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 2 hours ago #920881

It's just one of those stupid things that exist in zarp for no reasons and that's been there for so long that it won't change.
but :support:
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 2 hours ago #920887

It is sorta aids especially when the arrest batton can be super buggy and reach you from like 5meters

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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 2 hours ago #920888

I mean, baton rushing is like the only chance new players have against certain suits and scopeboosted psgs
until some of the other stuff is rebalanced, I don't think this should be changed.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 1 hour ago #920896

NO BATON RUSHING
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 1 hour ago #920897

Maybe add a 5 second delay on every swing with the arrest baton, that would be better, as every staff member would have a different view what "baton rushing" is
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 1 hour ago #920898

Tony Lombardi wrote:
I mean, baton rushing is like the only chance new players have against certain suits and scopeboosted psgs
until some of the other stuff is rebalanced, I don't think this should be changed.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 1 week 1 hour ago #920941

when people use the term "baton rushing" it literally means just using the arrest baton.
its so buggy you are lucky for half of your swings to register and the range from the users perspective is tiny.

if getting arrested upsets you so much, you can press a single key to make arrest batons do nothing. you can instantly kill from unlimited range with a psg with much higher fire rate. you can instantly kill anyone within the same range as an arrest baton with a suit. or 100 other things which are extremely op if you are compairing to the arrest baton.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 19 hours ago #921205

snowi wrote:
when people use the term "baton rushing" it literally means just using the arrest baton.
its so buggy you are lucky for half of your swings to register and the range from the users perspective is tiny.

if getting arrested upsets you so much, you can press a single key to make arrest batons do nothing. you can instantly kill from unlimited range with a psg with much higher fire rate. you can instantly kill anyone within the same range as an arrest baton with a suit. or 100 other things which are extremely op if you are compairing to the arrest baton.

When I talk about baton rushing I actually mean, cops who can't aim and have no ability to pull a trigger without them going into a state of PTSD or shell shock, so instead they choose to strafe left and right no matter have far away they are constantly swinging their baton until they either die or arrest the player.

I have no issue with players tasering me and arresting me or weapon checking me and sticking me in a jail cell, it's when I am in combat with someone and they abuse the fact they can arrest people from like 200 foot away from the actual player, baton rushing requires little to no effort meanwhile using a PSG at least requires you to aim and land more than one shot.

Saying that people using PSG's or guns against people trying to arrest is the most mind numbing argument I have ever seen, of fucking course a gun is going to hurt you, you fucking halfwit.

EDIT: TO summarise, a cop wouldn't and shouldn't run at someone with a gun pointed to them, it results in death, funnily enough.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 18 hours ago #921254

yeah with those arrest sticks in real life hmmm..
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921255

snowi wrote:
yeah with those arrest sticks in real life hmmm..

I'm comparing arresting someone with a stick to sticking someone in cuffs. But you're pea head baton rushing brain has a very weird way of processing things so it's easy to understand why you would think this way.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921256

this is honestly retarded, if you cant kill a cop running at you with no gun out you deserve to get arrested.

Dont give me that 200 feet bullshit you and me know you have to be in their face to actually arrest someone.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921257

Xeronise wrote:
this is honestly retarded, if you cant kill a cop running at you with no gun out you deserve to get arrested.

Dont give me that 200 feet bullshit you and me know you have to be in their face to actually arrest someone.

Boi i've seen you complain about this shit before on SSRP
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921258

Nafe wrote:
Xeronise wrote:
this is honestly retarded, if you cant kill a cop running at you with no gun out you deserve to get arrested.

Dont give me that 200 feet bullshit you and me know you have to be in their face to actually arrest someone.

Boi i've seen you complain about this shit before on SSRP
yea no shit its annoying as fuck im not saying lets go ahead and ban it
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921259

snowi wrote:
when people use the term "baton rushing" it literally means just using the arrest baton.
its so buggy you are lucky for half of your swings to register and the range from the users perspective is tiny.

if getting arrested upsets you so much, you can press a single key to make arrest batons do nothing. you can instantly kill from unlimited range with a psg with much higher fire rate. you can instantly kill anyone within the same range as an arrest baton with a suit. or 100 other things which are extremely op if you are compairing to the arrest baton.
Can you shut up ?
You're that guy that fucking bhops,and baton rush peoples, and when they kill you, you break nlr to baton rush them again, so please get the hell out of here man
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921265

i dont like the way this person plays time to be a toxic asshole wwwweeeeeewwwww

there are legitimate issues with the arrest baton. balance is not one of them.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921268

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i dont like the way this person plays time to be a toxic asshole wwwweeeeeewwwww

there are legitimate issues with the arrest baton. balance is not one of them.

You're the one who is trying to be toxic by doing this, you literally have a montage dedicated to this shit and peoples anger from it happening.
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 17 hours ago #921270

no i dont thats evil cat and he only targets toxic people / rule breakers
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 16 hours ago #921279

snowi wrote:
no i dont thats evil cat and he only targets toxic people / rule breakers

Rather odd evil cat plays on your account then isn't it?
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[SSRP] Ban Baton Rushing 6 days 16 hours ago #921281

snowi wrote:
no i dont thats evil cat and he only targets toxic people / rule breakers

you literally target everyone, even fucking new players
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