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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595283

if you call KOS on a MOD/ADMIN, (a valid KOS) and he says it's false KOS(multiple times even after you explained them why it is legit) is this legit since if a member tells you it's not legit near to no one would kill them	oli Offline Fresh Boarder ya idiot Posts: 39 Thanks received: 2 Karma: -1
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595286

if the kos was within the rules then yeah the admin's wrong - but you'll need proof if you want any kind of punishment for them	cJazz Offline Senior Boarder fanatic egalitarian Posts: 315 Thanks received: 148 Karma: 6
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595287

KOS is KOS. If it's false and the staff member said so, then it's probably false - it really depends on the situation. As Jazz said, if you want the staff member reported because you got falsely warned for false KOS then you can make an abuse report here.	Raeker Offline Former Community Manager It hurts the best of us Posts: 9175 Thanks received: 6577 Karma: 213
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595288

If he was using his staff rank to stop the KOS then I would say yes but I am not sure due to context Edit: as raeker said if you are going to make a post use this template here	DEADMONSTOR Offline Former Owner Posts: 9276 Thanks received: 3799 Karma: 80
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595289

the admin called it wrong on themselves (i kosed a mod) and then he said it would be false (the KOS was legit even the MOD admited that) but he said he talked out of it by saying it was false wich is in my opinion pretty pthreatemning to do as staff member since they got the power and should know the rules so no one is gonna kill them off that KOS	oli Offline Fresh Boarder ya idiot Posts: 39 Thanks received: 2 Karma: -1
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595290

oli wrote:

the admin called it wrong on themselves (i kosed a mod) and then he said it would be false (the KOS was legit even the MOD admited that) but he said he talked out of it by saying it was false wich is in my opinion pretty pthreatemning to do as staff member since they got the power and should know the rules so no one is gonna kill them off that KOS

Like we all said, report them. Nothing will happen otherwise, and you don't even state who it is.

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595293

What's the KOS scenario?	Studio Banter Offline Marvelous Boarder ❤️ Posts: 14007 Thanks received: 5848 Karma: -60
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595297

it's not about stating who it is it is as the title says a question whether it is an abuse of power or not

the secnario i watched smb kill a D with a sniper ( i just walked around the Corner) that smb walked away from the corpse so i called KOS on them while the smb said it was flase KOS since he has been shot by the D ( i kept calling KOS since he killed a D and dindt id the Body but he repeatetly said it would be false KOS after the round he said he talked himself out of a KOS

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595306

oli wrote:

it's not about stating who it is it is as the title says a question whether it is an abuse of power or not

the secnario i watched smb kill a D with a sniper ( i just walked around the Corner) that smb walked away from the corpse so i called KOS on them while the smb said it was flase KOS since he has been shot by the D ( i kept calling KOS since he killed a D and dindt id the Body but he repeatetly said it would be false KOS after the round he said he talked himself out of a KOS

You are right then. The admin or whoever should be spoken to unless there's more to the story.

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595309

aight then ask big smoke to his side of the Story	oli Offline Fresh Boarder ya idiot Posts: 39 Thanks received: 2 Karma: -1
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595320

Spoke to Big Smoke and I came to the conclusion that you did not tell us the whole story.

Big Smoke never punished you in any way shape or form for falsely KOSing him. In fact, he was only denying the fact that there was a valid KOS on him. He was trying to talk his way out of the KOS, which is a valid strategy when playing the game. He never abused his powers or authority and he did nothing wrong here.

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595336

i think you missunderstood me you might aswell read again what i typed

the secnario i watched smb kill a D with a sniper ( i just walked around the Corner) that smb walked away from the corpse so i called KOS on them while the smb said it was flase KOS since he has been shot by the D ( i kept calling KOS since he killed a D and dindt id the Body but he repeatetly said it would be false KOS after the round he said he talked himself out of a KOS

i never mentioned that he punished me in any way for that i mention that probably no one is gonna kill a mod if they say it is a false KOS

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595339

You getting abused my little boy?	XxmasterxX Offline Diamond Boarder PartyKing! Posts: 3988 Thanks received: 714 Karma: -3
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595340

oli wrote:

i think you missunderstood me you might aswell read again what i typed

the secnario i watched smb kill a D with a sniper ( i just walked around the Corner) that smb walked away from the corpse so i called KOS on them while the smb said it was flase KOS since he has been shot by the D ( i kept calling KOS since he killed a D and dindt id the Body but he repeatetly said it would be false KOS after the round he said he talked himself out of a KOS

i never mentioned that he punished me in any way for that i mention that probably no one is gonna kill a mod if they say it is a false KOS

it's fair game - he talked you out of it; it's not an abuse of power

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595344

oli wrote:

i think you missunderstood me you might aswell read again what i typed

the secnario i watched smb kill a D with a sniper ( i just walked around the Corner) that smb walked away from the corpse so i called KOS on them while the smb said it was flase KOS since he has been shot by the D ( i kept calling KOS since he killed a D and dindt id the Body but he repeatetly said it would be false KOS after the round he said he talked himself out of a KOS

i never mentioned that he punished me in any way for that i mention that probably no one is gonna kill a mod if they say it is a false KOS

I'll refer you to the rules here. The rules state the following:

.5 Valid KOS reasons
There are many KOS reasons and they all work in different situations and scenarios, here are a few; [You should question the player as to why they are doing these acts before you declare the KOS]

- Holding/Using a Traitor only weapon without announcing that he got it from a traitor.
- Ignoring unidentified bodies/C4 etc.
- Declaring invalid KOS on other players
- Turning themselves in I.e "I'm a traitor, in the traitor room" etc.
- Seeing a player inside of a Traitor only room.
- Failure to answer to a life check.
- Throwing a incendiary grenade that damages other players near the player.
- Pushing someone with a crowbar near an edge or hazard.
- Throwing the Golden block in unreachable spots.

As the rules show, if a player declares an invalid KOS on another player that player may, in turn, be KOSed. If you KOSed Big Smoke then the other users are allowed to kill Big Smoke. That they're too scared to do so is their own problem, not Big Smoke's.

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595346

so you say it is not a menace if a MOD who is supposed to know the rules and that can slay you for rdming, calls the KOS a false one ? because ya know ppl usually listen to mods	oli Offline Fresh Boarder ya idiot Posts: 39 Thanks received: 2 Karma: -1
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595349

oli wrote: so you say it is not a menace if a MOD who is supposed to know the rules and that can slay you for rdming, calls the KOS a false one ? because ya know ppl usually listen to mods False KOS is part of the game. Staff can do it, as can users.	Raeker Offline Former Community Manager It hurts the best of us Posts: 9175 Thanks received: 6577 Karma: 213
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595352

aight thats what i wanted to know (as the title of the post suggests)	oli Offline Fresh Boarder ya idiot Posts: 39 Thanks received: 2 Karma: -1
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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595355

Aight let's a real ttt expert tell you what is up
False kosing is acceptable within reason and can be seen as a strategic play by members of the traitor team as it allows them to frame other innocents and get them killed making there rounded easier.

However this comes at a cost as most people on zarp ttt understand if a player is found false kosing quite obviously and without a solid reason to kid a person and that person ends up being an innocent other players can proceed to kos the person for false kosing

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TTT abuse or not ??? 6 years 11 months ago #595375

A Good Pianist wrote:

Aight let's a real ttt expert tell you what is up
False kosing is acceptable within reason and can be seen as a strategic play by members of the traitor team as it allows them to frame other innocents and get them killed making there rounded easier.

However this comes at a cost as most people on zarp ttt understand if a player is found false kosing quite obviously and without a solid reason to kid a person and that person ends up being an innocent other players can proceed to kos the person for false kosing

You are right. Trouble in Terrorist Town can be a strategic game mode for the traitors.
False kosing is a valid strategy so the answer to your question is no it is not abuse. If traitors can convince the innocents that it is a false kos then there isn't any problem.