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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128740

Staff Member(s) Name:

Jack Bushross

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will grab later if i can be arsed

What Did The Staff Member(s) do?:

excessive punishment, enforcement of a rule which doesn't fucking exist

not listed under exploiting because there's no way in the world, after this long, that it's unintentional that you can go cop whilst wanted - been there for fucking years, stupidly easy fix to implement, everyone knows about it

not listed under job abuse because job abuse specifies two examples and does not have a broad enough scope

banning from the job for a fucking hour? no sit either, really shows how competent he actually is, didn't actually allow any input from my side

extremely immature when trying to discuss it too, ill add that later

What Server(s) Was This On?:

SSRP 1

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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128741

Half the time he has no fucking idea about the rules, he's attempted to punish me in the past for instances that aren't even rulebreaks. He also defends gangsters from police as citizens, shop owners etc, in order to attempt to rip suits on a regular basis.
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128742

He is enforcing rules that do not even exist, also tried getting me in trouble for "slander" because i was being rdm'd in prison and he was just sitting there doing absolutely nothing productive so i told him to do his job... :support:
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128743

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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128745

doubt much will come from this report but wtf hahah

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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128747

I'll handle this report
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128749

:plussp:
Thats for the GJUGG my guy
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128756

I’m not taking sides but gl my homie
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128758

Sam the Sausage wrote:
Half the time he has no fucking idea about the rules, he's attempted to punish me in the past for instances that aren't even rulebreaks. He also defends gangsters from police as citizens, shop owners etc, in order to attempt to rip suits on a regular basis.
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Defending people as a citizen or shop owner has never been a rulebreak and never will.
You can give yourself a roleplay job (within reason), but it shouldn't be criminal.

This doesn't state you can't commit criminal acts, such as printing. It's just stating you can't set your job to be something like "Private Hitman" or something similar.
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128761

Nafe wrote:
Sam the Sausage wrote:
Half the time he has no fucking idea about the rules, he's attempted to punish me in the past for instances that aren't even rulebreaks. He also defends gangsters from police as citizens, shop owners etc, in order to attempt to rip suits on a regular basis.
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Defending people as a citizen or shop owner has never been a rulebreak and never will.
You can give yourself a roleplay job (within reason), but it shouldn't be criminal.

This doesn't state you can't commit criminal acts, such as printing. It's just stating you can't set your job to be something like "Private Hitman" or something similar.
Yeah but he's defending people that he has zero relation to, not friends or gang members. He only does it to attempt to rip a suit if the cop is wearing one.
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128767

You might give people a lot of suits and weapons, but for the sake of God...
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128778

Under the current rule, its not job abuse
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128784

Stop making your own rules!!!!

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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128786

Henny wrote:
Under the current rule, its not job abuse
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Your not wrong, but its classed as exploiting. Job abuse was the common sense rule I thought of I geuss. Along with the fact another admin (a higher rank than myself) just warned him for doing the same thing again.
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128789

jack bushrsos wrote:
Henny wrote:
Under the current rule, its not job abuse
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Your not wrong, but its classed as exploiting. Job abuse was the common sense rule I thought of I geuss. Along with the fact another admin (a higher rank than myself) just warned him for doing the same thing again.

1.7 Exploiting - Purposely abusing unintentional game or server features is prohibited.

UNINTENTIONAL GAME OR SERVER FEATURES

NOT UNINTENTIONAL USE (not getting arrested while wanted) OF INTENTIONAL SERVER FEATURES (not getting arrested)

there is a direct link between the intended use of the feature and how i used it, therefore I'm not exploiting
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128792

stop lt corruption!!!
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[SSRP] Staff Report - Jack Bushross 4 years 10 months ago #1128793

Hi Sorle,

I have reviewed your report, spoken to Jack and discussed this report with other Head Admins to solidify my decision to ensure the best possible outcome could be delivered.

Your behavior does not breach the Job Abuse rule as:
  1. you did not change job in order to instantly claim a hit
  2. you did not change from a job that cannot raid to one that can, in order to raid a base you're in

However, the /fbi command (the one you used in your video) forces you to a cop job that previously was not possible unless done by an Admin or higher - which was considered admin abuse. If this command started a vote however, that would be a different kettle of fish.

It is pretty clear from your video that you used this command to avoid the arrest/RP - laughing at Jack and sarcastically saying "never been wanted in my life" is sort of a smoking gun in that regard - by switching job as Jack was attempting to arrest/chase you. This command is not to be used to avoid arrest/RP (since cops can't arrest other cops) but simply change job.

The exploiting rule is purposely left with a generic definition as exploiting can often be identified through common sense - we could add examples of common exploits to further assist users that may require it however I would assume that if none have been added before, it probably does not bring much value to the server rules.

As for Jack's punishment(s), he has apologised for banning you from cop for 1 hour and has explained that was not the desired time he wanted to ban you for. Furthermore, he decided to kill you rather than slay so nothing is added to your rapsheet purely because the FBI job is bugged; you spawn in jail with a gun if you are force arrested. I have reminded Jack to be more cautious when issuing punishments of any sort and that he should do his due diligence to correct any errors he makes as soon as possible.

I will not be taking any further action from this report for the reasons detailed above, should you have any further questions about my decision, feel free to contact me on Steam/Discord.

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