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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934518

Staff Member(s) Name: ♛BossComic23♛

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What Did The Staff Member(s) do?:

So there was a player in the game with the name "Jamal Nigerpop". Here's his profile: steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198116796119

I thought this looked a lot like the N***** bop song and asked (in admin chat) if it counted as loophole racism. And I got warned for racism.

1) I was reporting him.
2) I said it in admin chat. Nothing potentially offensive was seen by players.
3) I censored anything racist.

Since I was obviously letting staff know of a potentially racist name, and I said it in admin chat while censoring anything racist, I don't see why I was the one warned. I also got banned for an hour due to recents so that's fucking great. Last time I report anything to staff.

What Server(s) Was This On?: TTT

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Here's the dudes profile. You tell me if it's loophole racism, since BossComic likes to warn-first, ask questions later and I never received an answer. steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198116796119

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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934521

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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934522

Nearly got it!
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934523

Prosyndicate475 wrote:
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Too late
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934526

Seargent44 wrote:
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Cheers. You're on so you probably saw it happening.

I used tab to auto fill his name if that's why I was warned. Still fucking stupid if you ask me, but that's why I asked in admin chat, so I WOULDN'T be warned.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934528

Prosyndicate475 wrote:
Nearly got it!

He is reporting bosscomic, not just appealing the warn, so u cannot handle this
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934529

Answer to your question, YES it is loophole :/
and I mean I can see where you're coming from you're just trying to state that someone's name which hasn't been noticed is loophole so tbf good luck :plussp:
Though idk if anything happened before this to cause the warning but from what I see you legit asked then gave an example still keeping it in admin chat, I don't think this should be punishable
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934530

John Henry wrote:
Seargent44 wrote:
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Cheers. You're on so you probably saw it happening.

I used tab to auto fill his name if that's why I was warned. Still fucking stupid if you ask me, but that's why I asked in admin chat, so I WOULDN'T be warned.

I agree that you should not have been warned for this, I noticed you report the guy with the racist name, but was not aware the you were warned.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934535

I see what happened now and its my mistake. Sorry. I saw your achat text and all i really saw was the word ni**** so i acted and warned should've read all the text. Again sorry, my mistake.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934539

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I see what happened now and its my mistake. Sorry. I saw your achat text and all i really saw was the word ni**** so i acted and warned should've read all the text. Again sorry, my mistake.
*Facepalm* You should really be reading all the text before assuming it's automatically someone trying to be racist :-/
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934544

I agree here that you should not have been warned, you only reported a racist name to the staff that were probably unaware of it, so you actually tried to help out in my eyes. The fact you also censored it, and that it was in admin chat, also adds to the fact that you shouldn't have been warned. So I'm going to have to go against my brother here and support this unless he reveals anything more to the story.

:plussp:

Good luck!

Edit - Boss has said that it was a mistake and apologised for it, I'm hoping you're willing to forgive and be happy with just your warn being removed and no further actions against him.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934551

JMT Rankin wrote:
im sure theirs 0 racism policy and you get banned for it?
In this way, No, He was saying it to alert the staff members about a players name that was unnoticed meaning that It wasn't against the Ethos I guess :/
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934552

_Box_ wrote:
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I see what happened now and its my mistake. Sorry. I saw your achat text and all i really saw was the word ni**** so i acted and warned should've read all the text. Again sorry, my mistake.
*Facepalm* You should really be reading all the text before assuming it's automatically someone trying to be racist :-/
It was simply an honest mistake and nothing more. Due to it being as such, I believe this should be accepted with the warn simply being removed without any need for further actions unless John Henry wishes so.

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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934555

@Eddie wrote:
I agree here that you should not have been warned, you only reported a racist name to the staff that were probably unaware of it, so you actually tried to help out in my eyes. The fact you also censored it, and that it was in admin chat, also adds to the fact that you shouldn't have been warned. So I'm going to have to go against my brother here and support this unless he reveals anything more to the story.

:plussp:

Good luck!

Edit - Boss has said that it was a mistake and apologised for it, I'm hoping you're willing to forgive and be happy with just your warn being removed and no further actions against him.

Yeah that'd be fine. I'd just ask him to be more careful and actually read the chat next time.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934557

Ramen wrote:
_Box_ wrote:
BossComic23 wrote:
I see what happened now and its my mistake. Sorry. I saw your achat text and all i really saw was the word ni**** so i acted and warned should've read all the text. Again sorry, my mistake.
*Facepalm* You should really be reading all the text before assuming it's automatically someone trying to be racist :-/
It was simply an honest mistake and nothing more. Due to it being as such, I believe this should be accepted with the warn simply being removed without any need for further actions unless John Henry wishes so.

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Even if he wishes so, I feel that it wouldn't be fair for any more action. Everyone makes mistakes, a mistake something you learn from.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934558

can you please provide me with your steam id? id like to confirm one thing and if so then once it is accepted i need your steam id anyways to give to a HA
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934560

JMT Rankin wrote:
im sure theirs 0 racism policy and you get banned for it?
Whether to ban or not is optional and up to the staff member handling, it's much better to give them a chance to stop before immediately banning. In this case, he wasn't being racist anyway.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934563

JMT Rankin wrote:
im sure theirs 0 racism policy and you get banned for it?

Even if it was racist, a 0 tolerance policy doesn't mean you need to ban someone. Judging by henny's past, he probs should be banned if he is racist. But not in this scenario.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934568

Mattors wrote:
Ramen wrote:
_Box_ wrote:
BossComic23 wrote:
I see what happened now and its my mistake. Sorry. I saw your achat text and all i really saw was the word ni**** so i acted and warned should've read all the text. Again sorry, my mistake.
*Facepalm* You should really be reading all the text before assuming it's automatically someone trying to be racist :-/
It was simply an honest mistake and nothing more. Due to it being as such, I believe this should be accepted with the warn simply being removed without any need for further actions unless John Henry wishes so.

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Even if he wishes so, I feel that it wouldn't be fair for any more action. Everyone makes mistakes, a mistake something you learn from.
Exactly which is why I was hoping he wouldn't ask for it and he didn't.
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[TTT] Bosscomic false warn for racism 5 years 9 months ago #934571

Ramen wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Ramen wrote:
_Box_ wrote:
BossComic23 wrote:
I see what happened now and its my mistake. Sorry. I saw your achat text and all i really saw was the word ni**** so i acted and warned should've read all the text. Again sorry, my mistake.
*Facepalm* You should really be reading all the text before assuming it's automatically someone trying to be racist :-/
It was simply an honest mistake and nothing more. Due to it being as such, I believe this should be accepted with the warn simply being removed without any need for further actions unless John Henry wishes so.

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Even if he wishes so, I feel that it wouldn't be fair for any more action. Everyone makes mistakes, a mistake something you learn from.
Exactly which is why I was hoping he wouldn't ask for it and he didn't.
Well He'll prob get spoken to about the situation but nothing else
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