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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920513

Staff Member(s) Name: Tom

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What Did The Staff Member(s) do?: Ignore rulebreak

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Backstory first. So I was playing TTT (I missed it and felt like have some fun) and I was just playing around making jokes.And then in the beginning of the round I threw away the mine carts to the water and apparently it just went past and almost hit somebody calles "Not a cat". Not a cat later then killed me claiming it was because "I attempted to prop kill him" and so I didn't forgive him. And then later on the screenshots below happened.
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So what you see in the first screenshot is me asking Mattor who handled my report as I didn't see the RDMer get punnished. I talked in the mic but he responded in private messages as he was probably dead. He told me that he handled it and I asked him if it was my latest report on Not cat because I first thought they had gotten confused with my new report and my older report that was handled the round before.

I asked Tom why he didn't punnish the RDMer and he responded saying "well you had a prop I can't do much" so I asked him if he let the RDMer got because I threw the cart in the water; he responded saying "well that's prop abusing". I jokingly said "Is prop abusing KOSable" even though I knew it not being KOSable and I know that throwing a damn cart in the water isn't prop abuse. He responds saying "yes". ANd I tell him that it is not and that I just threw the cart in the water and it didn't hit him (atleast what I know) and he just said that it is KOSable. So I got pretty angry and told him to "check the fucking rules" or something along those lines. He responds with som mixed up words and tells me (what I understood it as) "Alright, I know that he killed you without a reason, but I'm not going to punnish him.

You can also see Shadow and GeT_Rekt joking about me being angry about it. This happened about 23:50.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920514

goodluck on this! and pls comeback we need you!
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920515

Wrong topic, Rackorr help plz
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920518

I was wondering why you got mad
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920521

Im looking into this thank you for bringing this to our attention
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920522

So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920526

Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.

Luki_Guki knows how things go and this is merely talk to request
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920534

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So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.

Luki_Guki knows how things go and this is merely talk to request

oh yeah, just read the title
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920536

Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920539

Holy shit Luki's playing TTT? Welcome back dude!
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920541

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Holy shit Luki's playing TTT? Welcome back dude!
Thank you Rackish! Yeah just felt like playing after a long "break" I had a fun time. Some laughs and giggles.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920547

Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.

For the record I have been an admin for over two months, also as far as I was aware, Tom didn't ask for my help during the time, I was just speaking to yourself and other players. I was constantly tabbing out of the game so I wasnt sure what was going on, like i didn't know if you were punished for prop abuse or if you were rdmed. Anyway tom is new so some stuff will need to be explained to him, but cheers for writing this.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920550

Mattors wrote:
Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.

For the record I have been an admin for over two months, also as far as I was aware, Tom didn't ask for my help during the time, I was just speaking to yourself and other players. I was constantly tabbing out of the game so I wasnt sure what was going on, like i didn't know if you were punished for prop abuse or if you were rdmed. Anyway tom is new so some stuff will need to be explained to him, but cheers for writing this.
I think it's more that a user was complaining about a staff member's behaviour and that you at no point asked in admin chat what the staff member thinks of these accusations.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920556

Raeker wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.

For the record I have been an admin for over two months, also as far as I was aware, Tom didn't ask for my help during the time, I was just speaking to yourself and other players. I was constantly tabbing out of the game so I wasnt sure what was going on, like i didn't know if you were punished for prop abuse or if you were rdmed. Anyway tom is new so some stuff will need to be explained to him, but cheers for writing this.
I think it's more that a user was complaining about a staff member's behaviour and that you at no point asked in admin chat what the staff member thinks of these accusations.

All that I was aware of was Luki asking me whether his report had been handled, then after checking it, I replied that it had, and then Tom said that is was him that handled it. In hindsight, as Tom is new, I should have asked what happened and if I could have helped him with the situation. I will take responsibility for that.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920557

Raeker wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.

For the record I have been an admin for over two months, also as far as I was aware, Tom didn't ask for my help during the time, I was just speaking to yourself and other players. I was constantly tabbing out of the game so I wasnt sure what was going on, like i didn't know if you were punished for prop abuse or if you were rdmed. Anyway tom is new so some stuff will need to be explained to him, but cheers for writing this.
I think it's more that a user was complaining about a staff member's behaviour and that you at no point asked in admin chat what the staff member thinks of these accusations.
Yeah it's more like what Rookier say. I felt like I needed an experienced admin to agree with me and acknowledge what's happening so that the new staff member could learn. (I looked at the meeting anouncement and saw that he was new before)
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920559

Luki_Guki wrote:
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Mattors wrote:
Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.

For the record I have been an admin for over two months, also as far as I was aware, Tom didn't ask for my help during the time, I was just speaking to yourself and other players. I was constantly tabbing out of the game so I wasnt sure what was going on, like i didn't know if you were punished for prop abuse or if you were rdmed. Anyway tom is new so some stuff will need to be explained to him, but cheers for writing this.
I think it's more that a user was complaining about a staff member's behaviour and that you at no point asked in admin chat what the staff member thinks of these accusations.
Yeah it's more like what Rookier say. I felt like I needed an experienced admin to agree with me and acknowledge what's happening so that the new staff member could learn. (I looked at the meeting anouncement and saw that he was new before)

Yeah, I wasn't sure what you were going on about but I should have asked, anyway dodo will speak with Tom, and in future, I will make sure that he is getting on ok.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920560

Mattors wrote:
Raeker wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.

For the record I have been an admin for over two months, also as far as I was aware, Tom didn't ask for my help during the time, I was just speaking to yourself and other players. I was constantly tabbing out of the game so I wasnt sure what was going on, like i didn't know if you were punished for prop abuse or if you were rdmed. Anyway tom is new so some stuff will need to be explained to him, but cheers for writing this.
I think it's more that a user was complaining about a staff member's behaviour and that you at no point asked in admin chat what the staff member thinks of these accusations.

All that I was aware of was Luki asking me whether his report had been handled, then after checking it, I replied that it had, and then Tom said that is was him that handled it. In hindsight, as Tom is new, I should have asked what happened and if I could have helped him with the situation. I will take responsibility for that.
Thank you for understanding, as Tom would most likely not listen to me because to him I'm just some other player and he's a moderator. So he wouldn't really listen to me.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920561

Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Raeker wrote:
Mattors wrote:
Luki_Guki wrote:
Mattors wrote:
So you are claiming that you were rdmed and that the rulebreaker was not punished. You are making a report on Tom for not correctly handling the situation. If so this needs to be moved to report abuse and you would need to show logs of you being rdmed.
Big boi Dodo knows what's up. I forgot to put it in the right topic and that's why I want Räcker to fix it. The old log excist for you admins if you have a doubt even after you saw small man Tom basically admitting to know that he broke the rules but not publishing him.

You were also there witnessing it all, you didn't even tell you fellow staff member how to handle the situation correctly. You may be a new admin but you still need to show some SA compatibility as I believe you'd be able to make it in the future.

For the record I have been an admin for over two months, also as far as I was aware, Tom didn't ask for my help during the time, I was just speaking to yourself and other players. I was constantly tabbing out of the game so I wasnt sure what was going on, like i didn't know if you were punished for prop abuse or if you were rdmed. Anyway tom is new so some stuff will need to be explained to him, but cheers for writing this.
I think it's more that a user was complaining about a staff member's behaviour and that you at no point asked in admin chat what the staff member thinks of these accusations.

All that I was aware of was Luki asking me whether his report had been handled, then after checking it, I replied that it had, and then Tom said that is was him that handled it. In hindsight, as Tom is new, I should have asked what happened and if I could have helped him with the situation. I will take responsibility for that.
Thank you for understanding, as Tom would most likely not listen to me because to him I'm just some other player and he's a moderator. So he wouldn't really listen to me.

Yeah, I agree with you now, thanks for making this post and hope to see you around.
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920563

I’m presuming what Tom meant when he said there was nothing he could really do about it was because there isn’t any evidence to back up prop abuse in the logs, hence why we can’t punish for prop abuse unless we clearly witnessed it or are provided with video evidence of it, because logs do not show it. This would explain why Tom could not see if you did infact prop abuse and if ‘Not a Cat’ had a reason to kill you
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Tom [TTT Talk to request] 2 months 4 weeks ago #920566

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I’m presuming what Tom meant when he said there was nothing he could really do about it was because there isn’t any evidence to back up prop abuse in the logs, hence why we can’t punish for prop abuse unless we clearly witnessed it or are provided with video evidence of it, because logs do not show it. This would explain why Tom could not see if you did infact prop abuse and if ‘Not a Cat’ had a reason to kill you
I understand what you mean. First of, I reported the guy for RDM and he said that I prop abused. If there were no evidence of me prop abusing it would just be in my favour as there's no evidence to his reason to kill me. Secondly, you can see prop damage in the logs. I didn't check the logs to see if I accidentally hit Tom because I can't check the logs of the current round.
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