[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request
5 years 10 months ago #907665
Staff Member(s) Name:
Clarky Staff Member(s) SteamID:
Idk got kicked so cannot see What Did The Staff Member(s) do?:
False warned me for "Fear RP" What Server(s) Was This On?:
SSRP 1 Evidence:
Someone with a brain handle, you can clearly see i was behind a wall and i had enough time to pull a gun and open fire on him. If you think about it in a rp i am safe enough to pull a gun and open fire thats how i kill him
[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request
5 years 10 months ago #907694
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me
I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao
Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"
Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request
5 years 10 months ago #907698
474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me
I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao
Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"
Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
Spoke to Clarky over Steam. Denis is right about the definiton for one, but there's also the fact that as a policeman an attempt to arrest should be made before shooting. So even if you weren't considered "under gunpoint" you still broke a rule, Pug.
[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request
5 years 10 months ago #907701
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
right ok this is where my PERP expertise come into play here
if you have a small enough distance between you and a wall to cover yourself and pull out a gun to defend yourself, you can shoot.
the entire idea of fearrp is to not endanger your life; this is not really endangering his life, as he made sure you couldn't just shoot him by ducking behind cover.
I'll try to get a video as a visual presentation of such theory
EDIT: here's an example:
This was from a PERP report on me which was denied, as my actions were deemed as acceptable and not risking my life. You can see I ducked behind cover, over a MUCH longer distance than Pug did, and shot him while not entirely risking my life. Considering PERP has much stricter rules on risking your life, if what I did was fine, then the warning given to Pug was totally excessive.
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request
5 years 10 months ago #907711
474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me
I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao
Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"
Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
2 robbers = 1 robs other 1 aims at family.
If both of the robbers weren't holding people at gunpoint one with the balls probably tried to run away
[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request
5 years 10 months ago #907712
Raeker wrote:
474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me
I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao
Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"
Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
Spoke to Clarky over Steam. Denis is right about the definiton for one, but there's also the fact that as a policeman an attempt to arrest should be made before shooting. So even if you weren't considered "under gunpoint" you still broke a rule, Pug.
yes but the warning itself is excessive due to the nature of the situation, and as such I'll be suggesting a rule rewording, because that rule is worded terribly and essentially allows no sort of escape, even if you'd be risking your life less by just ducking behind cover or fleeing, in certain scenarios.
[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request
5 years 10 months ago #907743
sorIe wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
right ok this is where my PERP expertise come into play here
if you have a small enough distance between you and a wall to cover yourself and pull out a gun to defend yourself, you can shoot.
the entire idea of fearrp is to not endanger your life; this is not really endangering his life, as he made sure you couldn't just shoot him by ducking behind cover.
I'll try to get a video as a visual presentation of such theory
EDIT: here's an example:
This was from a PERP report on me which was denied, as my actions were deemed as acceptable and not risking my life. You can see I ducked behind cover, over a MUCH longer distance than Pug did, and shot him while not entirely risking my life. Considering PERP has much stricter rules on risking your life, if what I did was fine, then the warning given to Pug was totally excessive.
PERP = ZARP? xd RhysB wrote:
474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me
I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao
Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"
Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
2 robbers = 1 robs other 1 aims at family.
If both of the robbers weren't holding people at gunpoint one with the balls probably tried to run away