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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899536

Staff Member(s) Name: David Spencer
Staff Member(s) SteamID: STEAM_0:0:1234567
What did the Staff Member(s) do?: He abused me by giving me false warnings. He warned me for saying ''i got banned for 4 days because i called someone a retard''
What server(s) was this on?: It was on the Trouble in Terrorist Town server.
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Last Edit: 3 months 3 weeks ago by ilikeblenko. Reason: putting in evidence
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899538

Please follow the template or it will be denied by staff
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899540

If you would like to challenge a warning, I believe you are posting to the wrong sub forum.

In regards to this scenario, I had only just come back from making lunch when ilikeblenko had said as he quoted. I believe the context which it had been used was fine as it was not directed at anyone, however I believe Dylan reacted in the way he did with the best intentions to follow the rules in the way he understood them and had experienced them in the past.

Overall, in the way I remember it I agree with the accuracy of ilikeblenko's post.

Edit: It would be interesting to get the opinion of some senior staff on this situation, for clarity going forward.
Last Edit: 3 months 3 weeks ago by IEatBlueCrayons.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899541

First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899543

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Last Edit: 3 months 3 weeks ago by IEatBlueCrayons.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899544

I'll handle when you use the template!
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899545

You should've followed the template like I said, edit it with the template and people will read it better.
Staff Member(s) Name: David Spencer
Staff Member(s) SteamID: STEAM_0:0:1234567
What did the Staff Member(s) do?: He abused me by giving me false warnings. He warned me for "Being a retard".
What server(s) was this on?: It was on the Trouble in Terrorist Town server.
Evidence:
Proof of warning i.imgur.com/LWjR3Ms.png
But aside from that, I back him 100%. Dylan was awful staff member in this case, and the warn was completely unjust.
Firstly, he completely jumped the gun and didn't even warn or say anything to ilikeblenko before issuing BOTH A WARN AND A GAG (showing up 2 times in recents).

He also warned him for "Disrespect", disregarding the fact that ilikeblenko was only adding to the situation caused by me, and not being disrespectful towards anyone else. I, prior, said that "You can break the rules 10 times and walk away scot free (forgetting to mention the proper punishments for those 10 broken rules) to which, he tried to defend the server and say "I got banned for 4 days for calling someone a retard" and thus getting him a gag and a warn.

Dylan, after that, tried to cover his ass and make up some bullshit reason for his punishment, saying "He was doing it for attention", to which I said he was clearly doing it for awareness, not attention.

Aside from that, I then said how unjust his actions were, to which he was extremely disrespectful, and said things like "I don't have time for this, just report me on the forums" and after I said that he could stop being so ignorant and not handle the situation so stupidly, he said "I don't need you telling me that, I'm smart". Which, clearly, he isn't when he moderates the server like that.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899547

Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.

That's such a bull shit, cowardly and childish response.

How the fuck did this (beep boop zarp is so nice and not backwards at all) get staff in the first place is beyond me.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899551

Svanzscape wrote:
Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.

That's such a bull shit, cowardly and childish response.

How the fuck did this (beep boop zarp is so nice and not backwards at all) get staff in the first place is beyond me.

As soon as the correct evidence and correct template are used I won't say anything. You've been causing a bit of trouble today. I handled the situation fairly for the benefit of the server. If you think I made a terrible mistake, then you must be wrong. Other then that stating that word disrespected and offended me. Learn to talk in a more mature manner instead of trying to cause an uproar against me.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899553

Dylan. wrote:
Svanzscape wrote:
Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.

That's such a bull shit, cowardly and childish response.

How the fuck did this (beep boop zarp is so nice and not backwards at all) get staff in the first place is beyond me.

As soon as the correct evidence and correct template are used I won't say anything. You've been causing a bit of trouble today. I handled the situation fairly for the benefit of the server. If you think I made a terrible mistake, then you must be wrong. Other then that stating that word disrespected and offended me. Learn to talk in a more mature manner instead of trying to cause an uproar against me.

"a bit of trouble" my ass lmao

You are staff, you should stand behind the rules, not shut anyone down who disagrees with them because you don't know them. You DIDN'T handle the situation fairly, get your head out of your own ass. You're ignorant to what "the benefit of the server" is, because you only did it for your own benefit.

You're an extremely ignorant and simple-minded, without any ability nor wish to change, so there's no point of arguing against you. I hope in the future you'll get your head out of your own ass.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899555

Svanzscape wrote:
Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.

That's such a bull shit, cowardly and childish response.

How the fuck did this (beep boop zarp is so nice and not backwards at all) get staff in the first place is beyond me.

Svanz y u so toxic </3
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899558

Svanzscape wrote:
Dylan. wrote:
Svanzscape wrote:
Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.

That's such a bull shit, cowardly and childish response.

How the fuck did this (beep boop zarp is so nice and not backwards at all) get staff in the first place is beyond me.

As soon as the correct evidence and correct template are used I won't say anything. You've been causing a bit of trouble today. I handled the situation fairly for the benefit of the server. If you think I made a terrible mistake, then you must be wrong. Other then that stating that word disrespected and offended me. Learn to talk in a more mature manner instead of trying to cause an uproar against me.

"a bit of trouble" my ass lmao

You are staff, you should stand behind the rules, not shut anyone down who disagrees with them because you don't know them. You DIDN'T handle the situation fairly, get your head out of your own ass. You're ignorant to what "the benefit of the server" is, because you only did it for your own benefit.

You're an extremely ignorant and simple-minded, without any ability nor wish to change, so there's no point of arguing against you. I hope in the future you'll get your head out of your own ass.

You just proved my point, by saying those kind of words towards me. I stood behind the rules, I followed them correctly and how they should've been handled. Judging by how you responded, you don't seem to care enough and you just want to cause some drama. I know what to do, that's why I've been chosen to moderate. I try to handle as much situations as I can, and this is one of them. The way I treated blenko, sure it might've been harsh and irrational for some, but I know what happened, and I know it was the correct way to deal with him.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899559

LonelyDodo wrote:
Svanzscape wrote:
Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.

That's such a bull shit, cowardly and childish response.

How the fuck did this (beep boop zarp is so nice and not backwards at all) get staff in the first place is beyond me.

Svanz y u so toxic </3

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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899560

ilikeblenko wrote:
Staff Member(s) Name: David Spencer
Staff Member(s) SteamID: STEAM_0:0:1234567
What did the Staff Member(s) do?: He abused me by giving me false warnings. He warned me for saying ''i got banned for 4 days because i called someone a retard''
What server(s) was this on?: It was on the Trouble in Terrorist Town server.
Evidence:
Proof of warning:

Just a heads up, it's Dylan. not David Spencer
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899563

Svanzscape wrote:
LonelyDodo wrote:
Svanzscape wrote:
Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.

That's such a bull shit, cowardly and childish response.

How the fuck did this (beep boop zarp is so nice and not backwards at all) get staff in the first place is beyond me.

Svanz y u so toxic </3

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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899565

Someone has to argue the other side so i guess i will. We have a zero tolerance policy towards any form of discrimination on all zarp servers, this can mean that even saying a word that can be classed as discriminatory can get you punished regardless of context. As for what you actually said while petty the word in question is still used as a form of abuse to people with mental disabilities, i get what your point was but you still should not have said it.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899573

Dylan. wrote:
First of all, use the correct template. Secondly if you have no evidence this won't count at all. Other than that I won't state anything any further as this can be based on lies for all I know.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Either this happened or this didn't, and we can clearly see from the proof that this actually happened, so why the fuck are you acting like this is all lies?
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899575

Miia wrote:
Someone has to argue the other side so i guess i will. We have a zero tolerance policy towards any form of discrimination on all zarp servers, this can mean that even saying a word that can be classed as discriminatory can get you punished regardless of context. As for what you actually said while petty the word in question is still used as a form of abuse to people with mental disabilities, i get what your point was but you still should not have said it.
This was used as an example in the situation though. He didn't say "You are retarded" or "What a retard" or anything along those lines, he simply said "I got banned for calling someone a retard", which is a fact. That isn't discrimination in the slightest and I don't see why he should be punished for it.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899577

Raeker wrote:
Miia wrote:
Someone has to argue the other side so i guess i will. We have a zero tolerance policy towards any form of discrimination on all zarp servers, this can mean that even saying a word that can be classed as discriminatory can get you punished regardless of context. As for what you actually said while petty the word in question is still used as a form of abuse to people with mental disabilities, i get what your point was but you still should not have said it.
This was used as an example in the situation though. He didn't say "You are retarded" or "What a retard" or anything along those lines, he simply said "I got banned for calling someone a retard", which is a fact. That isn't discrimination in the slightest and I don't see why he should be punished for it.

This was my thinking, the rules should be applied to common sense and to the context of the situation, where in this case the word 'retard' was used in a factual context and not a discriminatory one,
Last Edit: 3 months 3 weeks ago by IEatBlueCrayons.
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dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power 3 months 3 weeks ago #899579

Raeker wrote:
Miia wrote:
Someone has to argue the other side so i guess i will. We have a zero tolerance policy towards any form of discrimination on all zarp servers, this can mean that even saying a word that can be classed as discriminatory can get you punished regardless of context. As for what you actually said while petty the word in question is still used as a form of abuse to people with mental disabilities, i get what your point was but you still should not have said it.
This was used as an example in the situation though. He didn't say "You are retarded" or "What a retard" or anything along those lines, he simply said "I got banned for calling someone a retard", which is a fact. That isn't discrimination in the slightest and I don't see why he should be punished for it.

Exactly, words are extremely specific, one of the main reasons why I got so riled up.

IF he got warned for DISRESPECT, then there should be clear evidence of him DISRESPECTING someone.

In this case, he didn't.
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