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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251266

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Evidence Of Steam-ID - steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2162461405
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Time And Date (CET) - 2020.07.09
Other Comments - it was 2 days ago in crack house district
Reason - RDM
Story - so i was in crack house district on the balconey and ezeh started to shoot me and then butterman killed me which they said its ok because of property but martin confirmed it that the stairs and the balconey are not kos or aos. they can only be kos if you put a sign there
and if there is no sign the only reason you can kos if he enters the door so butterman thought this rule property applies but he was wrong
Proof - i upload it yesterday but the footage is from 2 days ago. please dont write any comment like i was wrong cause im clearly right that butterman rdmed and should get warned.
ty and have a great day.
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251268

this looks as if it's within RP sir :minussp: you were lying about working there and therefore you were MURDERED.
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251269

It is allowed kosing the property was always a thing

atleast during active nukes u can kos cops i wouldnt kos random people without a kos sign

but for some reason nothing is allowed now although it was always done in the past by everyone.

no point arguing though its not gonna get anywhere cuz a "community developer" word is apparently enough to make it a "thing" now
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251271

sorry but i dont remember that this kind of rp would be in a middle of a active nuke because they cannot rdm me for such reason it is just stupid like i will kill you cause you didnt pick up the can you dropped
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251278

This is what you would call a porch, this also is what you'd call a porch:

Now I don't know what porches people have in Germany, but a porch built on someones house is their property
You should be able to figure out the rest, don't listen to everything someone says because of their ranks
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251281

is someone gonna handle this or what?
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251283

this has always been part of the property lol, why is it now being claimed as not part of the property?
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251284

Sniper_camp wrote:
is someone gonna handle this or what?
the outcome wont please you
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251290

sorIe wrote:
this has always been part of the property lol, why is it now being claimed as not part of the property?
I remember being specifically told by CM's and HA's that its the property, anyone on or up the stairs is on it, I used to hand out warnings and such around these terms.
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251292

Sp00ns wrote:
It is allowed kosing the property was always a thing

atleast during active nukes u can kos cops i wouldnt kos random people without a kos sign

but for some reason nothing is allowed now although it was always done in the past by everyone.

no point arguing though its not gonna get anywhere cuz a "community developer" word is apparently enough to make it a "thing" now

I was simply asked for my opinion on the situation. In my opinion, logically speaking anything beyond your front door is clearly your base and you're allowed to KOS people inside. If you want to claim the area in front of your main door you should indicate this by putting a KOS sign down with a line or something like that. Anything else just leads to confusion. Are the stairs part of "your property"? What about the hedges or the little patch of grass? Just put a KOS sign down, it's really not hard.

EDIT: Just saying, I don't think that a warning should be given out in this case as there was no "malicious intent". It was just a result of an unclear situation. He thinks he had the right to kill you, you think he didn't and that's exactly why I think you should put a KOS text screen down for these kinds of situations.
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251297

Martin wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
It is allowed kosing the property was always a thing

atleast during active nukes u can kos cops i wouldnt kos random people without a kos sign

but for some reason nothing is allowed now although it was always done in the past by everyone.

no point arguing though its not gonna get anywhere cuz a "community developer" word is apparently enough to make it a "thing" now

I was simply asked for my opinion on the situation. In my opinion, logically speaking anything beyond your front door is clearly your base and you're allowed to KOS people inside. If you want to claim the area in front of your main door you should indicate this by putting a KOS sign down with a line or something like that. Anything else just leads to confusion. Are the stairs part of "your property"? What about the hedges or the little patch of grass? Just put a KOS sign down, it's really not hard.
yeah and whats the maximum limit of range like how much of PROPERTY can i claim because when i was not banned i see players claiming an entire district like wtf
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251299

its clearly this mans property, him receiving a punishment would not be necessary.
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251325

Dunno how there is even any debate needed here :/
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251340

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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251370

:plussp: HE SAY THE N WORD !
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251409

Martin wrote:
Sp00ns wrote:
It is allowed kosing the property was always a thing

atleast during active nukes u can kos cops i wouldnt kos random people without a kos sign

but for some reason nothing is allowed now although it was always done in the past by everyone.

no point arguing though its not gonna get anywhere cuz a "community developer" word is apparently enough to make it a "thing" now

I was simply asked for my opinion on the situation. In my opinion, logically speaking anything beyond your front door is clearly your base and you're allowed to KOS people inside. If you want to claim the area in front of your main door you should indicate this by putting a KOS sign down with a line or something like that. Anything else just leads to confusion. Are the stairs part of "your property"? What about the hedges or the little patch of grass? Just put a KOS sign down, it's really not hard.

EDIT: Just saying, I don't think that a warning should be given out in this case as there was no "malicious intent". It was just a result of an unclear situation. He thinks he had the right to kill you, you think he didn't and that's exactly why I think you should put a KOS text screen down for these kinds of situations.

That's not how morgan said it he claimed (i cannot argue because martin a community developer said its rdm in morgans words) and that i have to put a KOS although everyone would kos cops on their ele porch during an active nuke because if they go up the stairs + they have nlr they are counted as raiding or attempting to raid the nuke and i couldn't even explain it to morgan because he just said martin said so therefore i wasn't able to explain why its always been allowed
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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251482

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[SSRP] Punishment Request - Butterman561 3 years 9 months ago #1251489

Hello Sniper_camp,

After speaking with multiple people including some lead team members, I have come to the conclusion that this report is accepted, however the user will not be warned. If players want to KOS the part in front of the door, they should have a KOS sign that is placed in the right spot. I will do my best to make sure that Butterman561 knows the outcome of this appeal and what should be done next time. Hopefully this response clears any future confusion up about the current part of the map.

Thank you for making this report, consider this

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