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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075287

Name - Eddie
STEAM-ID - STEAM_0:1:155938536
Staff Members Name - Lead Team
Punishment Reason - Not perfectly sure, but from what I got told: Inactivity (had a notice), Interest in Gamemode, Breaking NDA
Server - Deathrun
Story/Situation - I received an official warning with the reason of breaking NDA and then changed to bad attitude when I explained my side. I still don't understand where I'd showed a bad attitude at any point and it honestly seems that's just a reason that was added on to keep my official. I appealed it, it was denied. Soon after it got denied, I saw "X removed all access rights from Eddie" in the chat, I was genuinely shocked at what could have caused me to get a full demotion. I did not break NDA, the only instance of me breaking NDA would be me making a report to DEAD about something from the meeting that he then looked into and investigated. Since me receiving an official, nothing happened regarding it and no further issues were caused, which is why I am so shocked to receive a full demotion today without knowing what else I'd done wrong.
Extra Information - The inactivity, yes I've been inactive, but most weeks I still got my minimum activity and attended every single meeting I could. The only times I have not got my minimum activity is when I had an inactivity notice, like this week due to me having mock exams currently and I'm trying to spend more time revising. I had said I would be improving my activity shortly and finding the dedication I used to have towards deathrun. The loss of interest in the gamemode doesn't make much sense to me, I've always loved deathrun but recently not got round to connecting as much due to me getting into SSRP, was about to start working on that though. During today's meeting I had came across and tested a huge exploit that meant any items could be duplicated, thanks to someone else, and I immediately messaged DEAD so he could look into fixing it. If I did not care or have any interest for the server, I would not have done that. Whenever I could I did handle my lead team duties, such as training people and responding to anyone who messaged me on any service requesting help. I was unhappy with the official because I knew I had done nothing wrong, but for that to get denied and then for me to get straight full demoted without having the slightest about what I'd done wrong since the official, is just extremely unfair.

I don't know why I'm appealing really, I wasn't originally going to. The people who voted on me receiving it are the people who will be voting on revoking it, which is just not gonna work :S I guess I'm just doing this because I know how unfair it is and I want to see what people will say and possibly get a more in depth reason for my demotion. As well as, although really unlikely, and probably impossible, the possibility to get my rank back and start doing everything I used to, like I used to.

Thanks for reading, I'l try to answer any questions and such :P
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075290

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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075293

imo you should focus on ssrp
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075297

You broke NDA and then lied about it.
Your Official Warning was for attitude from the outset, there was no proof that you broke NDA at that point, and you told us you didn't, and all was well.

We then received proof that you broke NDA, also proving that you lied to us.

Now you're demoted.
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075305

TheXnator wrote:
Now you're demoted.

Oof

Allow me to take his place :)
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075309

TheXnator wrote:
You broke NDA and then lied about it.
Your Official Warning was for attitude from the outset, there was no proof that you broke NDA at that point, and you told us you didn't, and all was well.

We then received proof that you broke NDA, also proving that you lied to us.

Now you're demoted.
I really do wish to see this evidence, I don’t understand where I have broken NDA other than to DEAD.
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075310

Honestly just a bullshit demotion. this is why i don't staff, also get on teamspeak.

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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075312

Agebt wrote:
Honestly just bullshit demotion. this is why i don't staff, also get on teamspeak.

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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075313

I am very disappointed that you are left with so many questions in the end when everything should have been very clear when you get demoted. I will follow this up before the next meeting and see if I can get the proof to see if this demotion was needed. Usually, I take the side of the lead-team/server owners so I am sorry this happened. If this is referring to the situation where you broke NDA to me I am going to be disappointed because at no point did I tell anyone nor would I get you demoted for something like that.
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075317

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I am very disappointed that you are left with so many questions in the end when everything should have been very clear when you get demoted. I will follow this up before the next meeting and see if I can get the proof to see if this demotion was needed. Usually, I take the side of the lead-team/server owners so I am sorry this happened. If this is referring to the situation where you broke NDA to me I am going to be disappointed because at no point did I tell anyone nor would I get you demoted for something like that.
thank you for everything :kiss:
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075333

TheXnator wrote:
You broke NDA and then lied about it.
Your Official Warning was for attitude from the outset, there was no proof that you broke NDA at that point, and you told us you didn't, and all was well.

We then received proof that you broke NDA, also proving that you lied to us.

Now you're demoted.
I am interested in this proof
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075335

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DEADMONSTOR wrote:
I am very disappointed that you are left with so many questions in the end when everything should have been very clear when you get demoted. I will follow this up before the next meeting and see if I can get the proof to see if this demotion was needed. Usually, I take the side of the lead-team/server owners so I am sorry this happened. If this is referring to the situation where you broke NDA to me I am going to be disappointed because at no point did I tell anyone nor would I get you demoted for something like that.
thank you for everything :kiss:

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Need to ask some follow up questions
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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075339

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DEADMONSTOR wrote:
I am very disappointed that you are left with so many questions in the end when everything should have been very clear when you get demoted. I will follow this up before the next meeting and see if I can get the proof to see if this demotion was needed. Usually, I take the side of the lead-team/server owners so I am sorry this happened. If this is referring to the situation where you broke NDA to me I am going to be disappointed because at no point did I tell anyone nor would I get you demoted for something like that.
thank you for everything :kiss:

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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075340

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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075362

First of all, I think the lead team are making a mistake here, if i find out that the “proof” wasn’t valid, i will be fuming, This is really disappointing coming from the staff team i used to be in. I don’t think the demotion was handled correctly at all, as dead said eddie is clearly left with many questions that have yet to be answered. The official for Attitude was just outrageous tbh but i’m not gonna get into that. Just get this accepted and don’t make anymore shitty mistakes guys. Disappointing.

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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075365

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First of all, I think the lead team are making a mistake here, if i find out that the “proof” wasn’t valid, i will be fuming, This is really disappointing coming from the staff team i used to be in. I don’t think the demotion was handled correctly at all, as dead said eddie is clearly left with many questions that have yet to be answered. The official for Attitude was just outrageous tbh but i’m not gonna get into that. Just get this accepted and don’t make anymore shitty mistakes guys. Disappointing.

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Kai. wrote:
First of all, I think the lead team are making a mistake here, if i find out that the “proof” wasn’t valid, i will be fuming, This is really disappointing coming from the staff team i used to be in. I don’t think the demotion was handled correctly at all, as dead said eddie is clearly left with many questions that have yet to be answered. The official for Attitude was just outrageous tbh but i’m not gonna get into that. Just get this accepted and don’t make anymore shitty mistakes guys. Disappointing.

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you sexy fucker c’mere

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[DEATHRUN] Eddie's Demotion Appeal 5 years 2 months ago #1075526

I just want to put it out there that I personally wanted a demotion to Admin on this rather than a full demotion, in order to give you a chance to build up trust again and apply for Lead Team once more, as you were in no way a bad Super Admin, but I wasn't there for the final vote. I wouldn't have a problem with accepting this appeal on the grounds of changing the full demotion to a demotion to Admin.

This situation wasn't you breaking NDA to DEAD, which I wasn't even aware of until now, it was to another person, who has requested that they remain anonymous, however @DEAD I will send you the proof that was provided.

If this had just been you breaking NDA alongside the attitude shown towards the Lead Team after the meeting when this happened, it likely would have just been an Official Warning and nothing more. The demotion happened because you betrayed the trust of the team in lying to us about it.


I am going to say this now though, and you can hold me to this, if it does happen that the proof provided was faked or anything along those lines, then I will be more than ready to personally apologise to you on behalf of the entire Deathrun Head Admin team on this one, with severe action taken against the user submitting the evidence, however the chance of the evidence being faked is negligible.
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