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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179968

Name - What is your in-game name? A Jain With Standards
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID? STEAM_0:0:97413931
Admins Name - Who banned you/who might it be? Ezeh
Reason - What is/might be the reason that you got banned? Placing a swastika, supporting Nazism(?)
Server - What server did you get banned from? SSRP
Time - How long were you banned for? 3 days
Story - What happened? I placed a swastika with a text sign saying: "The swastika is a symbol of peace, #ReclaimTheSwastika, I'm a Jain
Extra Information - Anything you think may be relevant to your ban. In the past year that I have been off the server, I went on a spiritual journey and sampled many different spiritualities and religions, with Indian religions deeply interesting me. Upon researching Jainism I converted and have become a deeply devoted Jain. This is when I realized that people's interpretation of the swastika is deeply perverted by Adolf Hitler and his Nazi third Reich. Upon realizing this I began my process of reclaiming the symbol for its traditional meaning as a symbol of peace and prosperity/good luck (With this even being the meaning in Europe and the Americas until Hitler co-opted it for his Reich)

In this section of the appeal, I will be going more in-depth into the history of the symbol by each region it has been found

Hinduism: the symbol with arms pointing clockwise (卐) is called swastika, symbolizing Surya ('sun'), prosperity and good luck, while the counterclockwise symbol (卍) is called svastika, symbolizing night or tantric aspects of Kali. It is also a symbol of Indra in Vedic Hinduism.

Jainism: swastika is the symbol for Suparshvanatha – the seventh of 24 Tirthankaras (spiritual teachers and saviors)

Buddhism: It symbolizes the auspicious footprints of the Buddha

In many European pagan religions, it symbolizes thunder, and lightning with it being a symbol of Zeus/Jupiter in Greco-Roman mythology, Thor in Norse/Germanic mythology. It is also a symbol of the Sun in many of the Ancient Illyrian cult. The swastika is also a symbol of eternity and eternal light in Armenia.

In more recent history the swastika in Medieval Europe was used as a hooked version of the cross, representing Christ's victory over death (so it's not only a symbol in Dharmic and European Pagan religions)

The Americas: The symbol represents good luck in the Navajo culture.

Now to approach this Appeal from a more "legal" standpoint by analyzing the rules. The only rule that could be used to punish someone for using a swastika is

1.1 Discrimination - Discrimination in any form (racism, sexism, prejudicial remarks, xenophobia) is strictly prohibited on our servers.

Particularly the xenophobic part, while some people may perceive the symbol in its perverted meaning we've clearly established that the symbol is religiously important to over 1.4 billion people. The only way you can uphold this punishment is if this server says that every single Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist, among anyone else who sees the symbol as a holy icon rather than a symbol for hate. By upholding this punishment you are saying that every single Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist is xenophobic which in itself is Xenophobic or anti-dharmic and closes off the server to over a billion people.

Sources
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_religions

"Your post looks like a troll and according to Ezehzz you were told to stop and remove the props or you get banned, and you refused. It's 3 days, wait it out."
The question of this appeal isnt whether Ezehzz told me to remove it, its the fact that I didn't violate any rules on the server so the ban itself is wrong.

And which part of this post looks like a troll? my religious affiliation?
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179970

Posted again because the handling staff didn't do a very good job and dismissed every single point as my post "looked like a troll"
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179972

A Sloth wrote:
Posted again because the handling staff didn't do a very good job and dismissed every single point as my post "looked like a troll"
You gotta admit this all sounds a little far-fetched, if youre serious about it then i support you, but it's hard to tell on ZARP
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179974

euhm, why do you post this again if your other post got denied. Im pretty sure this one is gonna get denied too.
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179976

Nerdyganii wrote:
A Sloth wrote:
Posted again because the handling staff didn't do a very good job and dismissed every single point as my post "looked like a troll"
You gotta admit this all sounds a little far-fetched, if youre serious about it then i support you, but it's hard to tell on ZARP

It does sound a little far fetched I’ll admit but the handling staff entirely dismissed the very wide array of points in my appeal.
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179980

Huperchild wrote:
if you were serious about this you would at least put a little effort into getting ur steamid

I went to the steam id finder and put my link in and that’s what it gave me.
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179982

I'll handle this! Expect a verdict soon.
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179984

pull your head in mate stay banned
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179985

The Martin wrote:
I'll handle this! Expect a verdict soon.

Thank you please take the points I made in my appeal into consideration unlike the last staff. :)
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179986

Swastikas are not allowed, no point even arguing because it's not going to change anything in your favor and anything at all
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179987

Clarky wrote:
Swastikas are not allowed, no point even arguing because it's not going to change anything in your favor and anything at all

Where in the rules does it say that though? I'll answer, for you, no where.
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179988

A Sloth wrote:
Clarky wrote:
Swastikas are not allowed, no point even arguing because it's not going to change anything in your favor and anything at all

Where in the rules does it say that though? I'll answer, for you, no where.
I'm gonna assume this part
1.1 Discrimination - Discrimination in any form (racism, sexism, prejudicial remarks, xenophobia) is strictly prohibited on our servers.
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179990

Huperchild wrote:
Chespin wrote:
A Sloth wrote:
Clarky wrote:
Swastikas are not allowed, no point even arguing because it's not going to change anything in your favor and anything at all

Where in the rules does it say that though? I'll answer, for you, no where.
I'm gonna assume this part
1.1 Discrimination - Discrimination in any form (racism, sexism, prejudicial remarks, xenophobia) is strictly prohibited on our servers.
beat me to it
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1.1 Discrimination - Discrimination in any form (racism, sexism, prejudicial remarks, xenophobia) is strictly prohibited on our servers.

It's very clear that you didn't read my appeal because I addressed this in my appeal, in fact, this was addressed in a point and my closing remarks
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179993

It's been stated multiple times that swastikas are not allowed it's just been loop-holled oh it means peace in another religion when people see it the 1st see the thing they're gonna associate it with nazi germany not Buddhism or Hinduism
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[Ban Appeal] A Jain With Standards 4 years 4 months ago #1179995

A Sloth wrote:
Clarky wrote:
Swastikas are not allowed, no point even arguing because it's not going to change anything in your favor and anything at all

Where in the rules does it say that though? I'll answer, for you, no where.
Ok

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