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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907665

Staff Member(s) Name:
Clarky
Staff Member(s) SteamID:
Idk got kicked so cannot see
What Did The Staff Member(s) do?:
False warned me for "Fear RP"
What Server(s) Was This On?:
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Evidence:


Someone with a brain handle, you can clearly see i was behind a wall and i had enough time to pull a gun and open fire on him. If you think about it in a rp i am safe enough to pull a gun and open fire thats how i kill him
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907669

You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907670

Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907674

Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
How could he have been shot though? Look at the video - FearRP is based on the idea that you're in danger, but there was no danger here.
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907676

TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
Dude he's Pulse you better not fuck with him
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907679

RhysB wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
Dude he's Pulse you better not fuck with him

Im IQ so i have walls
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907681

TimeForPug wrote:
RhysB wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
Dude he's Pulse you better not fuck with him

Im IQ so i have walls
damn, ive heard gmodtroller is a lion main
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907682

TimeForPug wrote:
RhysB wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
Dude he's Pulse you better not fuck with him

Im IQ so i have walls

Pug its a shame you lack IQ
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907683

luke_ wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
RhysB wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
Dude he's Pulse you better not fuck with him


Im IQ so i have walls

Pug its a shame you lack IQ

Its a shame you lack a dad, Wait what

Before you ban me me and luke are friends so chill
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907685

Raeker wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
How could he have been shot though? Look at the video - FearRP is based on the idea that you're in danger, but there was no danger here.

If anything Clarky was in the most danger since he fell from a ladder :whistle:
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907687

TimeForPug wrote:
luke_ wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
RhysB wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
Dude he's Pulse you better not fuck with him


Im IQ so i have walls

Pug its a shame you lack IQ

Its a shame you lack a dad, Wait what

Before you ban me me and luke are friends so chill

ban him
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907689

MsMs wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
luke_ wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
RhysB wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
Dude he's Pulse you better not fuck with him


Im IQ so i have walls

Pug its a shame you lack IQ

Its a shame you lack a dad, Wait what

Before you ban me me and luke are friends so chill

ban him
Agree
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907694

TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"

Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907698

474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"

Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
Spoke to Clarky over Steam. Denis is right about the definiton for one, but there's also the fact that as a policeman an attempt to arrest should be made before shooting. So even if you weren't considered "under gunpoint" you still broke a rule, Pug.
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907701

Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
right ok this is where my PERP expertise come into play here

if you have a small enough distance between you and a wall to cover yourself and pull out a gun to defend yourself, you can shoot.

the entire idea of fearrp is to not endanger your life; this is not really endangering his life, as he made sure you couldn't just shoot him by ducking behind cover.

I'll try to get a video as a visual presentation of such theory

EDIT: here's an example:



This was from a PERP report on me which was denied, as my actions were deemed as acceptable and not risking my life. You can see I ducked behind cover, over a MUCH longer distance than Pug did, and shot him while not entirely risking my life. Considering PERP has much stricter rules on risking your life, if what I did was fine, then the warning given to Pug was totally excessive.
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907703

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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907704

This is a tricky situation
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907711

474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"

Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
2 robbers = 1 robs other 1 aims at family.
If both of the robbers weren't holding people at gunpoint one with the balls probably tried to run away
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907712

Raeker wrote:
474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"

Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
Spoke to Clarky over Steam. Denis is right about the definiton for one, but there's also the fact that as a policeman an attempt to arrest should be made before shooting. So even if you weren't considered "under gunpoint" you still broke a rule, Pug.
yes but the warning itself is excessive due to the nature of the situation, and as such I'll be suggesting a rule rewording, because that rule is worded terribly and essentially allows no sort of escape, even if you'd be risking your life less by just ducking behind cover or fleeing, in certain scenarios.
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[SSRP] Clarky demote/Speaking to request 5 years 10 months ago #907743

sorIe wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall
right ok this is where my PERP expertise come into play here

if you have a small enough distance between you and a wall to cover yourself and pull out a gun to defend yourself, you can shoot.

the entire idea of fearrp is to not endanger your life; this is not really endangering his life, as he made sure you couldn't just shoot him by ducking behind cover.

I'll try to get a video as a visual presentation of such theory

EDIT: here's an example:



This was from a PERP report on me which was denied, as my actions were deemed as acceptable and not risking my life. You can see I ducked behind cover, over a MUCH longer distance than Pug did, and shot him while not entirely risking my life. Considering PERP has much stricter rules on risking your life, if what I did was fine, then the warning given to Pug was totally excessive.
PERP = ZARP? xd
RhysB wrote:
474 Denis wrote:
TimeForPug wrote:
Clarky wrote:
You was still under gun point, it doesn't matter if you were behind a wall

Gunpoint? You cannot fucking see me

I play RP servers regular. I know how gunpoint works lmao

Tbh im waiting for you to tell me to kill myself again
gunpoint
noun
while threatening someone or being threatened with a gun.
"two robbers held a family at gunpoint while they searched their house"

Technically speaking according to the definition he was still at gunpoint regardless of being behind a wall hence the definition example explicitly stating that the individual does not have to be in direct view of the person holding them at gunpoint for them to be considered to be "at gunpoint"
2 robbers = 1 robs other 1 aims at family.
If both of the robbers weren't holding people at gunpoint one with the balls probably tried to run away

Oh u smart
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