TOPIC: dylan. admin on TTT server abusing power

Raeker wrote:
That's great now I'm being cornered. Let me explain. Svanz, was shitting and talking how the server rules are shit, talking about how you can easily get banned or what not, pretty much trying to make the server look bad. Ilikeblenko jumped stating that he had been banned for calling someone a retard. Note that before he said it people were chatting about how the server is too harsh etc and just causing a full uproar. When he said the word retard, I got offended and clearly it's a disrespectful word that shouldn't be used. I don't care how it was used, you don't need to use it ever. He was obviously trying to cause more reactions by saying it. If you think I was too harsh I'm sorry, but I got offended by it, and I think that should be held into perspective.

Raeker wrote: Out of interest then what if he had said "i got banned for saying the nword(except he actually said it)"? In my eyes zero tolerance should mean it should be the same for all cases, while he is not saying it directed at anyone he is still saying it and i'm sure the majority of staff would see this as punishable. In my opinion zero tolerance means we should stick to it being zero tolerance not say context suddenly matters in the case of one word while for another it should not, keep it consistent no matter how petty it is.

ENOUGH.

Let Lead Team handle this please.

Wait for the outcome and if you disagree then you may complain. But for now there's no reason to debate this here. I mean, guy doesn't even have clear evidence.

You guys can discuss about the rules on Steam/TS, not here.

Miia wrote: The difference is that one of the two is a racial slur. Besides, I have actually not punished people for stating facts like that. It was only earlier this week that a user said, and I quote, "Wtf so we can't say nibba?" I didn't punish this user for this and instead told him I would do so if he continued on about the issue. He is merely stating a fact and as long as he doesn't make an issue out of it I don't see why I should make an issue out of it either.

Besides, I have used words as examples myself. I just said retarded, as an example, right here on the forums. The same rules apply on the forums as they do on the server. Would I get demoted now? Or when I had a discussion with Xnator with Chute in the spacer, I also used, and I quote, "nibba" as an example. Should I have been banned from the Teamspeak?

Of course I shouldn't, because I was merely stating a fact and asking questions. It is retarded to immediately punish a user for it. And yes, I do believe that also counts for the n-word, though that is a little different to other words such as loopholes and insults.

Dylan. wrote:
No one is backing you into a corner buddy, it's simply the issue of whether the rules have been applied correctly. As Miia stated there is a zero tolerance policy, however the context it was used in would be hard to define as discrimination due to it being used as a factual statement and not in a derogatory way. Just use this as an excercise that we can all learn from to help us better morderate the server, as the outcome of this should hopefully clear up any ambiguity around this policy.

As ilikeblenko said in the server, he isn't looking to get you demoted, he just wants the warn removed, he's not out for blood. Svanz on the other hand....

steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198293946285/screenshots/

Took screenshots on chat, can't really record. Sorry if they're messed up but you can see svanz being toxic towards the server.

IEatBlueCrayons wrote:
I want to drench him for blood.

It's awful how he acts and what he did and his 0 regrets and ignorance towards the situation.

Can I just add that yesterday, Blenko used the word "Retard" in a non-derogatory context, i then proceeded to ask him politely not to use the word. Which he then apologized and acknowledged what I told him. This was before this incident.

Dylan. wrote:
Perfect example of showing bad behavior of me to save your own ass IN A CASE THAT'S NOT RELATED TO ME.

I'm not going to deny that I was talking huge trash on how the server is ran and how awfully you handeled the case, but for you to blame me to save your ass...

Svanzscape wrote:
As Johnler has already stated, please refrain from causing fights on this thread, let it be used to provide evidence for the verdict. This is about if the punishment was just and not about Dylan's conduct.

Svanzscape wrote:
I'm not here to blame anyone, jut to proof that a lot of uproar against the server rules was happening. Not blaming you buddy, i don't care what you want to do.

Svanzscape wrote: Svanz, calm down lol. I know you care and I get that you're pissed of over this, but I feel like acting this way is completely missing its mark. Besides, you're only riling yourself up here.

I've been there my dude, but at that point it is better to stand away from the PC for a while.

EXCUSE ME IM HANDLING THIS?

Dylan. wrote:
Dylan although you are staff svan over here is the most respected ex Admin in my eyes and all I’m gonna say just don’t mess with him as he knows the rules more than you do with the experience he has

Raeker wrote:
I totally agree with this as to what I have read he is helping us by telling people not to say things so really he is just stating the rules rather than breaking them

Can this get locked? ...