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Poll: What is your preferred way of dealing with a hacker?

Give him a second chance , (( warn / kick)) 51 26.4%
Permanently ban him. 142 73.6%
Total number of voters: 193 ( KrypticOG, Nina, sinzz, Miia, James Stone ) See more
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TOPIC: [ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL

[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670102

Raeker wrote:
Although I disagree with it, 80% of the people here believe perma banning is the best option. Could I request a new poll with some sort of middle ground? A vote option for kick, a vote option for 1-month ban and a vote option for a perma ban - who knows, with some sort of middle ground people might agree more on the matter.

I believe that the difference between a kick and a perma ban is too big to really get a proper conclusion out of this. I'm 100% sure there are at least a few people out there that havevoted for the perma ban option, even though they believe that it is too harsh. But because the kick option is too soft, they voted for the ban option anyways.

I feel like the people that voted ban want a ban, I haven't seen many arguments of people voting perm ban but wanting a month ban etc.
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670122

Morgan wrote:
Raeker wrote:
Although I disagree with it, 80% of the people here believe perma banning is the best option. Could I request a new poll with some sort of middle ground? A vote option for kick, a vote option for 1-month ban and a vote option for a perma ban - who knows, with some sort of middle ground people might agree more on the matter.

I believe that the difference between a kick and a perma ban is too big to really get a proper conclusion out of this. I'm 100% sure there are at least a few people out there that havevoted for the perma ban option, even though they believe that it is too harsh. But because the kick option is too soft, they voted for the ban option anyways.

I feel like the people that voted ban want a ban, I haven't seen many arguments of people voting perm ban but wanting a month ban etc.
Grand Wizowd wrote:
I don't believe first offence should be a permaban, but the ban should still be a month+ on the first offence...
Raeker wrote:
Anyways, what people seem to misunderstand is that an Appeal is and should not be seen as a valid way to escape the system. Perma banning someone should be considered a permanent ban, not an "You got banned but just appeal tommorow and play again" ban. I personally believe a kick is the perfect go-between in this situation.

Perhaps to appease the community somewhat Grand Wizowd brings the best option, with a month-long ban to rethink your actions on your first offense.
Ezehzz wrote:
People deserve second chances. If people did not get a second chance, most staff wouldn't be here.
Bunnyslippers wrote:
Straight up perma just seems like a bad idea but I do feel like something needs to change with the way we handle hackers in zarp but I can't quite see what this change should be.
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Raeker wrote:
Anyways, what people seem to misunderstand is that an Appeal is and should not be seen as a valid way to escape the system. Perma banning someone should be considered a permanent ban, not an "You got banned but just appeal tommorow and play again" ban. I personally believe a kick is the perfect go-between in this situation.

Perhaps to appease the community somewhat Grand Wizowd brings the best option, with a month-long ban to rethink your actions on your first offense.

This does seem like a good course of action. Maybe a ban from anything from 1 week to 1 month for the first offense (with a very low chance of an appeal being accepted), and then if they get caught hacking again, then onto a permanent ban. A straight up perma means you can just appeal it, but only a kick is too lenient.
Aspect wrote:
Considering some people still voted for second chance i'd like to say again that if they are newbies playing on the server they shouldn't be permabanned compared to being experienced on the server, being fully aware of the ethos.
Arceus wrote:
I don't believe we should perma-ban them, I think we should consider just how much they disrupted the server first. For example if they RDM'd with wall-hacks, aim-bot, etc and made someone lose for example a minigun 2.0, then maybe we should ban them.
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Raeker wrote:
Although I disagree with it, 80% of the people here believe perma banning is the best option. Could I request a new poll with some sort of middle ground? A vote option for kick, a vote option for 1-month ban and a vote option for a perma ban - who knows, with some sort of middle ground people might agree more on the matter.

I believe that the difference between a kick and a perma ban is too big to really get a proper conclusion out of this. I'm 100% sure there are at least a few people out there that havevoted for the perma ban option, even though they believe that it is too harsh. But because the kick option is too soft, they voted for the ban option anyways.
That is what I would have voted!
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670128

8 People on a 150+ Poll, is that even questionable?
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670131

Morgan wrote:
8 People on a 150+ Poll, is that even questionable?
Not everyone replied to the poll, you know - they just voted what they believe is the best option out of the two options given to them. And since the two options differ greatly, people will vote on what they agree with the most, even though it might not be what they actually want.
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670139

Raeker wrote:
Although I disagree with it, 80% of the people here believe perma banning is the best option. Could I request a new poll with some sort of middle ground? A vote option for kick, a vote option for 1-month ban and a vote option for a perma ban - who knows, with some sort of middle ground people might agree more on the matter.

I believe that the difference between a kick and a perma ban is too big to really get a proper conclusion out of this. I'm 100% sure there are at least a few people out there that havevoted for the perma ban option, even though they believe that it is too harsh. But because the kick option is too soft, they voted for the ban option anyways.
You are free to make a different poll.
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670146

First offence - 1 month ban without the chance of appeal
Second offence - perm
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670148

Tilin wrote:
First offence - 1 month ban without the chance of appeal
Second offence - perm
Thats never gonna happen.
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670151

Tilin wrote:
First offence - 1 month ban without the chance of appeal
Second offence - perm
The appeals system is designed in such a way that, no matter what, you can always appeal. A system where people do not have the ability to appeal will never be put in place.
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670158

Raeker wrote:
Tilin wrote:
First offence - 1 month ban without the chance of appeal
Second offence - perm
The appeals system is designed in such a way that, no matter what, you can always appeal. A system where people do not have the ability to appeal will never be put in place.
I do agree. But hacking itself is one of the worst offence a player can commit.
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #670169

Perma ban on zarp means u will get a second chance soon anyway :cheer:
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #674933

Bumperino!
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #674936

We must crack down on hackers! Perma ban!
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #674940

You can make a difference between unintentional rulebreaks and intentional, and any intentional rulebreaks show that the player has no will to roleplay at all. Therefore: Permban
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #675044

This should not be allowed

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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #675046

Insta perma, its their own fault, bring down the mighty ban hammer!
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #675048

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Insta perma, its their own fault, bring down the mighty ban hammer!
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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #675270

Bump!

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[ALL SERVERS] HACKER POLL 6 years 7 months ago #675272

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