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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866225

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You can really tell this did not come from a community uproar concerning racsim and discrimination given not even head admins ( And even server owners or whatever they are called ) knew about this.
But rather most likely this emanated from one of the CM/Owners themselves thus inducing the rule change without even talking about it with anybody else but themselves.

Now I don't say this is a bad decision but this really goes to show how little care you guys have for the actual community and how you make decisions based on your personal feelings and what YOU ( And not the community ) experience on day to day.
There's been multiple people claiming the punishment system in place for rulebreaking in general is too lenient but nobody answered those complaints or even considered them.
Same shit for the hacking policy.
Same shit for the multiple random balance changes on ssrp ( Gauss rifle nerf when nobody wanted it, holster exploit " fix ", refusing or actualy not even considering to nerf the handcannon when everyone wants it ).

But whatever, the servers are slowly dying anyway so none of that matters much more.
God your acting like an idiot, can you please get the fuck out of here with your crazy ass bullshit. Have you ever heard the saying about what happens when you asume? Noboy wants to hear what you have to say when its so convoluted and biased. So either keep your crazy asumtions to yourself or I will force you to.

if he has such a "crazy ass bullshit" claim, then why does the community support it? are thank you's on multiple posts like this considered coincidence or just ignored at this point?

wouldn't that also just be as easy to disprove?

i'm not sure he's the biased one (what would the bias be towards, rather than you just using it as a buzz word) since he plays the server and is part of the playerbase and has an opinion that should be valued
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866226

How about you just stop being racist? I see no problem in just stopping if you get in trouble for it, but maybe its just me who doesn't use racial slurs to begin with
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866229

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How about you just stop being racist? I see no problem in just stopping if you get in trouble for it, but maybe its just me who doesn't use racial slurs to begin with


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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866258

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How about you just stop being racist? I see no problem in just stopping if you get in trouble for it, but maybe its just me who doesn't use racial slurs to begin with


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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866283

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How about you just stop being racist? I see no problem in just stopping if you get in trouble for it, but maybe its just me who doesn't use racial slurs to begin with

Intolerable SJW, stop saying stupid shit like this
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866300

what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866310

loxeo wrote:
EMP wrote:
Jool wrote:
You can really tell this did not come from a community uproar concerning racsim and discrimination given not even head admins ( And even server owners or whatever they are called ) knew about this.
But rather most likely this emanated from one of the CM/Owners themselves thus inducing the rule change without even talking about it with anybody else but themselves.

Now I don't say this is a bad decision but this really goes to show how little care you guys have for the actual community and how you make decisions based on your personal feelings and what YOU ( And not the community ) experience on day to day.
There's been multiple people claiming the punishment system in place for rulebreaking in general is too lenient but nobody answered those complaints or even considered them.
Same shit for the hacking policy.
Same shit for the multiple random balance changes on ssrp ( Gauss rifle nerf when nobody wanted it, holster exploit " fix ", refusing or actualy not even considering to nerf the handcannon when everyone wants it ).

But whatever, the servers are slowly dying anyway so none of that matters much more.
God your acting like an idiot, can you please get the fuck out of here with your crazy ass bullshit. Have you ever heard the saying about what happens when you asume? Noboy wants to hear what you have to say when its so convoluted and biased. So either keep your crazy asumtions to yourself or I will force you to.

if he has such a "crazy ass bullshit" claim, then why does the community support it? are thank you's on multiple posts like this considered coincidence or just ignored at this point?

wouldn't that also just be as easy to disprove?

i'm not sure he's the biased one (what would the bias be towards, rather than you just using it as a buzz word) since he plays the server and is part of the playerbase and has an opinion that should be valued
As EMP has stated, the reason for as to why he thinks Jool is being biased has to do with the first paragraph and the first paragraph alone. And to be fair, that’s a fair thing to say. Just read that paragraph properly – it clearly shows that he finds this decision to not be a good one, and judges his opinion of the community team on that fact alone. You can say whatever you want to say, but I do agree with EMP that that shows bias.

Not talking about anything else of his post as that isn’t the issue here.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866311

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what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866312

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what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

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agreed comrade
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866314

Nafe wrote:
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what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

Why are all the TTT staff who aren’t Raeker missing a good portion of their brain
I have to say that I find going through the logs and banning people for private messages and gang chat is kind of retarded if nobody has an issue with it and I have to say I find it a little bit retarded. But regardless it isn't my community and we have to adhere to its rules; if the CM team doesn't want any racism in any form used anywhere then we'll all have to simply agree to that, whether we want to or not.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866316

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Nafe wrote:
Gurren Lagan wrote:
what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to address ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

Why are all the TTT staff who aren’t Raeker missing a good portion of their brain
I have to say that I find going through the logs and banning people for private messages and gang chat is kind of retarded if nobody has an issue with it and I have to say I find it a little bit retarded. But regardless it isn't my community and we have to adhere to its rules; if the CM team doesn't want any racism in any form used anywhere then we'll all have to simply agree to that, whether we want to or not.
We aren't forced to obey, if we don't want to you can either accept the consequences or leave Zarp
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866318

Nick0GR wrote:
Raeker wrote:
Nafe wrote:
Gurren Lagan wrote:
what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to address ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

Why are all the TTT staff who aren’t Raeker missing a good portion of their brain
I have to say that I find going through the logs and banning people for private messages and gang chat is kind of retarded if nobody has an issue with it and I have to say I find it a little bit retarded. But regardless it isn't my community and we have to adhere to its rules; if the CM team doesn't want any racism in any form used anywhere then we'll all have to simply agree to that, whether we want to or not.
We aren't forced to obey, if we don't want to you can either accept the consequences or leave Zarp
I'd rather not resort to the attitude of "Accept it or get out" and instead give my arguments actual legs to stand on, sorry.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866319

Nafe wrote:
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what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

Why are all the TTT staff who aren’t Raeker missing a good portion of their brain

care to explain?

the point, I see, you are clearly missing is that you guys simply don't care what the CM team wants from you lots. don't expect the CM team to be considerate for you, if you simply ignore their rules.

btw, your comment actually made me laugh a bit. Nice one!
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866333

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Raeker wrote:
Nafe wrote:
Gurren Lagan wrote:
what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to address ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

Why are all the TTT staff who aren’t Raeker missing a good portion of their brain
I have to say that I find going through the logs and banning people for private messages and gang chat is kind of retarded if nobody has an issue with it and I have to say I find it a little bit retarded. But regardless it isn't my community and we have to adhere to its rules; if the CM team doesn't want any racism in any form used anywhere then we'll all have to simply agree to that, whether we want to or not.
We aren't forced to obey if we don't want to you can either accept the consequences or leave Zarp
I'd rather not resort to the attitude of "Accept it or get out" and instead give my arguments actual legs to stand on, sorry.
I would but I get no saying in the matter. My opinion won't change the CM team's opinion and this has reached a point where they look into gang chats that are completely private and ban people for it, I think we've reached the point of accepting it or get out.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866334

Nafe wrote:
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what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

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And why is it that where ever I look, you're just starting shit, especially with the TTT staff. You've had issues with us, that point has been made BLATANTLY CLEAR the past ten fucking posts I've read, do everyone a favor and just cut the crap. If all you're going to do is shit post, and slander the staff over at TTT, or whoever is on your shit list and you just wanna talk shit about, you should start getting your posts removed or even be issued a forum ban, cause this is just ridiculous.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866339

Nick0GR wrote:
Raeker wrote:
Nick0GR wrote:
Raeker wrote:
Nafe wrote:
Gurren Lagan wrote:
what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to address ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

Why are all the TTT staff who aren’t Raeker missing a good portion of their brain
I have to say that I find going through the logs and banning people for private messages and gang chat is kind of retarded if nobody has an issue with it and I have to say I find it a little bit retarded. But regardless it isn't my community and we have to adhere to its rules; if the CM team doesn't want any racism in any form used anywhere then we'll all have to simply agree to that, whether we want to or not.
We aren't forced to obey if we don't want to you can either accept the consequences or leave Zarp
I'd rather not resort to the attitude of "Accept it or get out" and instead give my arguments actual legs to stand on, sorry.
I would but I get no saying in the matter. My opinion won't change the CM team's opinion and this has reached a point where they look into gang chats that are completely private and ban people for it, I think we've reached the point of accepting it or get out.
I'm merely saying that the rhetoric of "Deal with it or get out" is kind of retarded, as it disallows for any meaningful discussion from either side. Say whatever you want, an argument as to why racial slurs should be allowed to some extent can definitely be made, or even better, the argument that we should ban everyone the moment they use the word regardless of the content being flawed in and of itself is definitely a proper discussion that we can have right here on the forums. Saying "Live with it or get out" doesn't allow for such a discussion and immediately makes any and all possible critique invalid. It also basically means you've already lost the discussion because you refuse to have one in the first place.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866344

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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866483

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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866522

Gurren Lagan wrote:
Nafe wrote:
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what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.


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care to explain?

the point, I see, you are clearly missing is that you guys simply don't care what the CM team wants from you lots. don't expect the CM team to be considerate for you, if you simply ignore their rules.

btw, your comment actually made me laugh a bit. Nice one!

I’m glad someone took my post and it’s arguments from page 2 into account.

I’ve already said plenty of times; I am absolutely okay with banning people for intentionally berating other people using racist words.

What I am not okay with is people such as yourself clearly, who will do anything to please higher ups, no matter how stupid it is. For example; banning a player who is having a bit of banter between him and a friend who he knows is okay with being called a crippled fucker. Just because that word affects your grandma’s friend’s sisters’s dad’s dog, who lost both his back legs to an IED.

Dramn, who I think is one of the greater admins, clearly stated earlier that context is everything and judging by that she will continue to punish players the way she used to.

Just to remind you I am absolutely in for banning players who try to discriminate and belittle others, what I am not okay with is the staff blaitently ignoring context just to try and get that rush of adrenaline they seem to get the second they see and click the ban button.

Context in these situations is what should decide the punishment and nothing else.

I also agree that words use in a public channel, for example OOC on SSRP shouldn’t be used to say such words to even friends who are okay with it, it should stay in personal messages and anywhere only the group of players who are okay with it can see it, what you can’t see won’t hurt you.
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About stricter rules on racism & discrimination. 6 years 1 month ago #866539

Bezzy wrote:
Nafe wrote:
Gurren Lagan wrote:
what the actual fuck... the Community managers say we're not allowed to use racist terms or discriminate in anyway. is it so hard to listen to them?
there are enough other ways to adress ur pals, then only using the n-word. don't get surprised if you get punished for disobeying.

Why are all the TTT staff who aren’t Raeker missing a good portion of their brain

And why is it that where ever I look, you're just starting shit, especially with the TTT staff. You've had issues with us, that point has been made BLATANTLY CLEAR the past ten fucking posts I've read, do everyone a favor and just cut the crap. If all you're going to do is shit post, and slander the staff over at TTT, or whoever is on your shit list and you just wanna talk shit about, you should start getting your posts removed or even be issued a forum ban, cause this is just ridiculous.

Oh my problem with you TTT people?

You’re all muppets who won’t try and stand on your own two feet for even a minute and then when you do you make the stupidest kf decisions such as ban me multiple times for the name “Mass Genocide Needed”, then after I clear up how it isn’t racist you guys manage to spin up another stupid story of how I or others are just joining to be racist.

So to answer your trash demands; no, I will not stop shitting on the TTT staff.
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