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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782026

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its allowed for now
Believe Tyler said otherwise.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782100

4.11 Entities - Do not store entities in inaccessible areas of the map. This includes storing entities inside world props. Entities placed outside of a building must not be vertically further from the ground than a plate1x8.mdl placed vertically. This excludes areas that are accessible through an exisiting building, ladder or a staircase.

Entities shouldn't be used as a building material. They should only be used for their intentional RP purpose, excluding metal detectors, which can be used freely as long as they don't break other building rules.

It isn't allowed. You should ask big man Roy next time ;)

PS: This rule was added around the time when the metal detector was used abusively in the disco bases.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782108

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4.11 Entities - Do not store entities in inaccessible areas of the map. This includes storing entities inside world props. Entities placed outside of a building must not be vertically further from the ground than a plate1x8.mdl placed vertically. This excludes areas that are accessible through an exisiting building, ladder or a staircase.

Entities shouldn't be used as a building material. They should only be used for their intentional RP purpose, excluding metal detectors, which can be used freely as long as they don't break other building rules.

It isn't allowed. You should ask big man Roy next time ;)

PS: This rule was added around the time when the metal detector was used abusively in the disco bases.
Pretty sure keypads aren't entities though.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782113

Alright, I will give my voice to this.

The keypads where CONNECTED to props you blew up. We did not just place a keypad down to obstruct player mobility, nor, according you where you said you needed to crouch/jump to get by, I can confirm you this is not true, for I have went through several times without needing to jump or crouch. Our keypads where connected to props. which you have failed to show in the image given. We where not intending to use the keypads to slow you down, but for props we could take cover behind.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782138

Spicy wrote:
Alright, I will give my voice to this.

The keypads where CONNECTED to props you blew up. We did not just place a keypad down to obstruct player mobility, nor, according you where you said you needed to crouch/jump to get by, I can confirm you this is not true, for I have went through several times without needing to jump or crouch. Our keypads where connected to props. which you have failed to show in the image given. We where not intending to use the keypads to slow you down, but for props we could take cover behind.

You placed the keypads like that because you knew the props would get blown and then you have an advantage. Then, the keypads block you. You must be able to walk through with ease, not like a maze. They shouldn't block people in any way.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782143

Spicy wrote:
Alright, I will give my voice to this.

The keypads where CONNECTED to props you blew up. We did not just place a keypad down to obstruct player mobility, nor, according you where you said you needed to crouch/jump to get by, I can confirm you this is not true, for I have went through several times without needing to jump or crouch. Our keypads where connected to props. which you have failed to show in the image given. We where not intending to use the keypads to slow you down, but for props we could take cover behind.
That doesn't matter and you would know this if you actually read what everyone else was talking about. If the keypad is making a obstacle then it is not allowed period. It is as simple as that and whoevers dupe it is they can easily move the keypads to avoid this issue anyways. Not a big problem but that's the ZARP community.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782145

Lets just make keypads no collided by default, and if changed, warn them for changing the collidable state of a keypad/button
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782352

Raeker wrote:
Roy Specter wrote:
4.11 Entities - Do not store entities in inaccessible areas of the map. This includes storing entities inside world props. Entities placed outside of a building must not be vertically further from the ground than a plate1x8.mdl placed vertically. This excludes areas that are accessible through an exisiting building, ladder or a staircase.

Entities shouldn't be used as a building material. They should only be used for their intentional RP purpose, excluding metal detectors, which can be used freely as long as they don't break other building rules.

It isn't allowed. You should ask big man Roy next time ;)

PS: This rule was added around the time when the metal detector was used abusively in the disco bases.
Pretty sure keypads aren't entities though.
They are entities.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782494

Raeker wrote:
Roy Specter wrote:
4.11 Entities - Do not store entities in inaccessible areas of the map. This includes storing entities inside world props. Entities placed outside of a building must not be vertically further from the ground than a plate1x8.mdl placed vertically. This excludes areas that are accessible through an exisiting building, ladder or a staircase.

Entities shouldn't be used as a building material. They should only be used for their intentional RP purpose, excluding metal detectors, which can be used freely as long as they don't break other building rules.

It isn't allowed. You should ask big man Roy next time ;)

PS: This rule was added around the time when the metal detector was used abusively in the disco bases.
Pretty sure keypads aren't entities though.
They are 100% entities anything that is not a prop that is spawned into the game is an entity.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782498

EMP wrote:
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Roy Specter wrote:
4.11 Entities - Do not store entities in inaccessible areas of the map. This includes storing entities inside world props. Entities placed outside of a building must not be vertically further from the ground than a plate1x8.mdl placed vertically. This excludes areas that are accessible through an exisiting building, ladder or a staircase.

Entities shouldn't be used as a building material. They should only be used for their intentional RP purpose, excluding metal detectors, which can be used freely as long as they don't break other building rules.

It isn't allowed. You should ask big man Roy next time ;)

PS: This rule was added around the time when the metal detector was used abusively in the disco bases.
Pretty sure keypads aren't entities though.
They are 100% entities anything that is not a prop that is spawned into the game is an entity.
Oh, okay then - don't mind me ^.^
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782501

Raeker wrote:
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Raeker wrote:
Roy Specter wrote:
4.11 Entities - Do not store entities in inaccessible areas of the map. This includes storing entities inside world props. Entities placed outside of a building must not be vertically further from the ground than a plate1x8.mdl placed vertically. This excludes areas that are accessible through an exisiting building, ladder or a staircase.

Entities shouldn't be used as a building material. They should only be used for their intentional RP purpose, excluding metal detectors, which can be used freely as long as they don't break other building rules.

It isn't allowed. You should ask big man Roy next time ;)

PS: This rule was added around the time when the metal detector was used abusively in the disco bases.
Pretty sure keypads aren't entities though.
They are 100% entities anything that is not a prop that is spawned into the game is an entity.
Oh, okay then - don't mind me ^.^
Oh but when I say it no one cares :(((( don't come to school tomorrow
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782503

Spicy wrote:
Alright, I will give my voice to this.

The keypads where CONNECTED to props you blew up. We did not just place a keypad down to obstruct player mobility, nor, according you where you said you needed to crouch/jump to get by, I can confirm you this is not true, for I have went through several times without needing to jump or crouch. Our keypads where connected to props. which you have failed to show in the image given. We where not intending to use the keypads to slow you down, but for props we could take cover behind.
Are you kidding me thats directly forbidden in the rules.
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4.2 Buttons & Keypads - Buttons and keypads must be clearly visible and should not be used as decorations but rather only be used for the activation of your contraptions.
Sounds to me like its pretty clear you weren't using those keypads to activate contraptions. They are not props to be used for cover thats what the game gives you actual props for. Please read the rules more carefully next time especially the section that contains directly to Keypads...
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782505

EMP wrote:
Spicy wrote:
Alright, I will give my voice to this.

The keypads where CONNECTED to props you blew up. We did not just place a keypad down to obstruct player mobility, nor, according you where you said you needed to crouch/jump to get by, I can confirm you this is not true, for I have went through several times without needing to jump or crouch. Our keypads where connected to props. which you have failed to show in the image given. We where not intending to use the keypads to slow you down, but for props we could take cover behind.
Are you kidding me thats directly forbidden in the rules.
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4.2 Buttons & Keypads - Buttons and keypads must be clearly visible and should not be used as decorations but rather only be used for the activation of your contraptions.
Sounds to me like its pretty clear you weren't using those keypads to activate contraptions. They are not props to be used for cover thats what the game gives you actual props for. Please read the rules more carefully next time especially the section that contains directly to Keypads...
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4.2 Buttons & Keypads - Buttons and keypads must be clearly visible and should not be used as decorations but rather only be used for the activation of your contraptions.
If they're not connected then they're invalid, however I guess this will be brought up in the Lead Team meeting this Saturday to ensure that this simply won't be allowed in general.
But when I say this nobody cares :(((((((
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782512

Alright so emp, when the props get blown up that are connected to the keypads I should delete the keypads then?
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782532

Spicy wrote:
Alright so emp, when the props get blown up that are connected to the keypads I should delete the keypads then?
Just don't use it as a building material (making a path that they need to go around). It's an entity place it on a wall where it is out of the way. It is stated in the rules that you can't use entities as a building meterial
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782533

Spicy wrote:
Alright so emp, when the props get blown up that are connected to the keypads I should delete the keypads then?
It's if they are used as props it isn't allowed
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782537

From what I understand using keypads, buttons, metal detectors for building purposes (when i say building purposes I mean part of a base so in this instance they force you to navigate through them) is not allowed, although its not hard to loophole this by just building this in the specific way and saying "oh yeah someone handcannon'd it so it aint my fault"
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782697

Spicy wrote:
Alright so emp, when the props get blown up that are connected to the keypads I should delete the keypads then?
The keypad just being on a prop doesn't make it valid. The rule states they are for controlling contraptions. If they are activating something they are clearly fine even if that something gets blown up. But if they don't activate anything they shouldn't be there. Your post said you were using them for cover.
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782699

EMP wrote:
Spicy wrote:
Alright so emp, when the props get blown up that are connected to the keypads I should delete the keypads then?
The keypad just being on a prop doesn't make it valid. The rule states they are for controlling contraptions. If they are activating something they are clearly fine even if that something gets blown up. But if they don't activate anything they shouldn't be there.

next time sum1 tguns a base with keypads, some admin better get on and remove em ;)
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[CM/Owners please] Is this allowed or not? 6 years 4 months ago #782702

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EMP wrote:
Spicy wrote:
Alright so emp, when the props get blown up that are connected to the keypads I should delete the keypads then?
The keypad just being on a prop doesn't make it valid. The rule states they are for controlling contraptions. If they are activating something they are clearly fine even if that something gets blown up. But if they don't activate anything they shouldn't be there.

next time sum1 tguns a base with keypads, some admin better get on and remove em ;)
If the keypad was used to control a fading door they don't need to be removed, but the post clearly stated they were being intentionally used only for cover.
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