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TOPIC: [TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal

[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920130

Name - What is your in-game name?
✪ ユノSmojea ✪
STEAM-ID - What is your STEAM-ID?STEAM_0:0:11622545
Staff Members Name - Who warned you?Xerceas ✿
Punishment Reason - What was the reason of the warning(s)? Antisemitism
Server - Which server did this occur on? TTT
Story/Situation - What happened?
I drew a sun sign and got warned for it.
Extra Information - Anything you would find relevant to your warning(s)?
Neither did i mention anything antisemitistic or did anything like that. So i dont find this warn valid. It was just assumed that i drew a "swastika. -Also how can u deny this for "loophole" as i didnt "loophole" at all. You u just go and assume i was "loopholing". Also u used term "discrimination" even tho i didnt discriminate anyone.(referring to last appeal)- Handle someone with brain pls.
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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920131

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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920132

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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920153

Personally, I wouldn’t have even punished if you drew a clear swastika (with I’m presuming the bullet marks on walls?) because it would seem unnecessary, nevermind for loopholing it, which you claim it wasn’t even loopholing. But that’s just my opinion, if the staff member or users took offence to it then unfortunately I see why you were punished, but even me that’s had a harsh background to do with this context, would not be offended by what you did.
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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920155

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Personally, I wouldn’t have even punished if you drew a clear swastika (with I’m presuming the bullet marks on walls?) because it would seem unnecessary, nevermind for loopholing it, which you claim it wasn’t even loopholing. But that’s just my opinion, if the staff member or users took offence to it then unfortunately I see why you were punished, but even me that’s had a harsh background to do with this context, would not be offended by what you did.
That's pretty worrying if you arent punishing for making racist symbols
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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920157

Kyber wrote:
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Personally, I wouldn’t have even punished if you drew a clear swastika (with I’m presuming the bullet marks on walls?) because it would seem unnecessary, nevermind for loopholing it, which you claim it wasn’t even loopholing. But that’s just my opinion, if the staff member or users took offence to it then unfortunately I see why you were punished, but even me that’s had a harsh background to do with this context, would not be offended by what you did.
That's pretty worrying if you arent punishing for making racist symbols
According to Smoj, it wasn’t. I can’t give much input though because I didn’t see what was actually drawn, my point was that I wouldn’t be offended to the point of warning for antisemitism, I would rather tell them to stop and not do it again, if they did then I would punish
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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920165

I fail to see a context in which you were drawing that for its intended meaning of a sun sign. Sadly i'm of the opinion it was most likely drawn because it looks like a swastika to test staff, in which case it is loopholing an anti-semetic symbol.
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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920166

@Eddie wrote:
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Personally, I wouldn’t have even punished if you drew a clear swastika (with I’m presuming the bullet marks on walls?) because it would seem unnecessary, nevermind for loopholing it, which you claim it wasn’t even loopholing. But that’s just my opinion, if the staff member or users took offence to it then unfortunately I see why you were punished, but even me that’s had a harsh background to do with this context, would not be offended by what you did.
That's pretty worrying if you arent punishing for making racist symbols
According to Smoj, it wasn’t. I can’t give much input though because I didn’t see what was actually drawn, my point was that I wouldn’t be offended to the point of warning for antisemitism, I would rather tell them to stop and not do it again, if they did then I would punish
I take offense to this symbol, and I am sure there are others with a similar background that do as well.

It is true that turning the "swatzika" around is a symbol of prosperity and good. However that is in Asia. Since this is predominently an European server with a lot of Western users, then it is primarily the European culture that should be followed. So yes, this would be counted as loopholing and the punishment is valid.
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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920169

Raeker wrote:
@Eddie wrote:
Kyber wrote:
@Eddie wrote:
Personally, I wouldn’t have even punished if you drew a clear swastika (with I’m presuming the bullet marks on walls?) because it would seem unnecessary, nevermind for loopholing it, which you claim it wasn’t even loopholing. But that’s just my opinion, if the staff member or users took offence to it then unfortunately I see why you were punished, but even me that’s had a harsh background to do with this context, would not be offended by what you did.
That's pretty worrying if you arent punishing for making racist symbols
According to Smoj, it wasn’t. I can’t give much input though because I didn’t see what was actually drawn, my point was that I wouldn’t be offended to the point of warning for antisemitism, I would rather tell them to stop and not do it again, if they did then I would punish
I take offense to this symbol, and I am sure there are others with a similar background that do as well.

It is true that turning the "swatzika" around is a symbol of prosperity and good. However that is in Asia. Since this is predominently an European server with a lot of Western users, then it is primarily the European culture that should be followed. So yes, this would be counted as loopholing and the punishment is valid.
Realistically from my background, I should take offence severely, but that’s just not how I react to things, and I do agree that the punishment is valid and I see no context where this “sun sign” could have been drawn without a loopholing intention, all I’m saying is I would’ve gave one chance just to give the benefit of the doubt to Smoj that it was an innocent act
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[TTT] Smojea.'s Punishment Appeal 1 week 4 days ago #920221

So Smojea after reviewing your appeal and talking to Xerceas I have decided to Deny this appeal. I had looked at the screenshots you provided but it seems that this was not the time/reason Xerceas punished you for. Unless further evidence comes up the result will be the same.
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