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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224676

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I thought of using a tactic similar to this one a while ago

Then I realized that detectives have teleporters so it is possible for innocent people to teleport to nether and get falsely slapped in the face after exiting

This line of information makes it not 100% accurate -> "Killing on sus"
IMO this should be a valid way to kill traitors but ZARP TTT doesn't allow deducing
That’s actually a fair point, as the teleporter is also a detective weapon, this method could be terribly flawed. If you’re right about it then there’s not much the staff can do to punish, but if an innocent finds a teleporter from the body of a detective or is given one by a detective then they do not have to call it out as theoretically it was bought from the detective shop and is a detective weapon. Based on this it isn’t 100% accurate

It falls under "T weapons" to most people so to be safe I'd say you were given/found it. :)
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224677

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this tactic may work but man it pisses me off imagine you are having a perfect t round nobody knows your a traitor then you go through a portal to hide an as soon as you leave you just get sprayed down because someone is siting there watching the portal like a hawk its just kinda stupid

Just set a teleport outside.
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224679

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"if it's approved already (I already read his post about this, btw)." approved by Jim_Jam "Assuming to actually did all of these checks then you sir have a big brain and did not kill on suspicion"

"Today, I was "RDMed on suspicion" by Juzo for coming out of the nether during round 82." Killed for going into the traitor room.

"I was so confused as I was hearing Poseidon (moderator) and a few other players (including staff members) saying that it was not RDM and that Juzo is basically more efficient than other players to come with this awesome tactics to figure who the traitors are." Love you Poseidon.

"I'm not gonna lie. I got annoyed." I know Helen, you've been targetting me yesterday and today, you're vengeful not annoyed.

"a traitor would have been suspiciously on target but not on KOS. However, I was attacked straight away from coming out of the Nether portal and killed eventually." Because you entered a T room.

"And because I asked why this was acceptable as I needed an official response to it, I was ironically made fun of by staff too. Not to add the following "bullying" that I received and the name changes from other players saying pretty much to KOS me and trying to ruin my T rounds." Cyberbullying isn't real, it's your choice to not turn off the computer. Also, you should add the names of the staff and what others named themselves, I wanna see them.

"Anyway, in the past, this situation would have been punishable because no one could really explain their reasons for killing a traitor who would come out of the Nether, better than how Juzo did." I kill people that come out the Traitor Room, not the Nether.

"And suddenly, he joins the community to make it approved?" Have I brought chaos to your community with logic?

"So all this time, people who have been doing the same thing pretty much, were not cool enough to pass this into the community as much as they tried to." Replace cool with smart. it's not an opinion that makes it valid.

"How can you really be sure that (not only Juzo who's really so awesome :huh: )" Replace awesome with smart.

"any player "cleared the Nether" and didn't ghost, rdm on suspicion, lie in report etc." Your concern is if someone doesn't do it properly, which is there fault for trying to replicate something and not doing it correctly.

"Please, do not make fun of my post." Couldn't help myself

"It's personal criticism and I wanted to post what I think about this new situation and to I help the staff see through this as they may not have thought about complications." There are no complications you just don't understand it.

"I already received some hate on the server, I don't need more. Thank you in advance." Names, names, names.

Angry Juzo is bad Juzo.
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224702

Miia wrote:
Kyber wrote:
Gin wrote:
I thought of using a tactic similar to this one a while ago

Then I realized that detectives have teleporters so it is possible for innocent people to teleport to nether and get falsely slapped in the face after exiting

This line of information makes it not 100% accurate -> "Killing on sus"
IMO this should be a valid way to kill traitors but ZARP TTT doesn't allow deducing
That’s actually a fair point, as the teleporter is also a detective weapon, this method could be terribly flawed. If you’re right about it then there’s not much the staff can do to punish, but if an innocent finds a teleporter from the body of a detective or is given one by a detective then they do not have to call it out as theoretically it was bought from the detective shop and is a detective weapon. Based on this it isn’t 100% accurate
Seeing as the teleporter is also a traitor weapon an innocent does have to announce getting one just like any other traitor weapon.
if it’s bought from the detective shop it’s a detective weapon.
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224721

Kyber wrote:
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Kyber wrote:
Gin wrote:
I thought of using a tactic similar to this one a while ago

Then I realized that detectives have teleporters so it is possible for innocent people to teleport to nether and get falsely slapped in the face after exiting

This line of information makes it not 100% accurate -> "Killing on sus"
IMO this should be a valid way to kill traitors but ZARP TTT doesn't allow deducing
That’s actually a fair point, as the teleporter is also a detective weapon, this method could be terribly flawed. If you’re right about it then there’s not much the staff can do to punish, but if an innocent finds a teleporter from the body of a detective or is given one by a detective then they do not have to call it out as theoretically it was bought from the detective shop and is a detective weapon. Based on this it isn’t 100% accurate
Seeing as the teleporter is also a traitor weapon an innocent does have to announce getting one just like any other traitor weapon.
if it’s bought from the detective shop it’s a detective weapon.
Yeh but it’s in the traitor shop also, so it’s also a traitor weapon aswel and should be announced
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224722

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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224739

Maddox wrote:
Kyber wrote:
Miia wrote:
Kyber wrote:
Gin wrote:
I thought of using a tactic similar to this one a while ago

Then I realized that detectives have teleporters so it is possible for innocent people to teleport to nether and get falsely slapped in the face after exiting

This line of information makes it not 100% accurate -> "Killing on sus"
IMO this should be a valid way to kill traitors but ZARP TTT doesn't allow deducing
That’s actually a fair point, as the teleporter is also a detective weapon, this method could be terribly flawed. If you’re right about it then there’s not much the staff can do to punish, but if an innocent finds a teleporter from the body of a detective or is given one by a detective then they do not have to call it out as theoretically it was bought from the detective shop and is a detective weapon. Based on this it isn’t 100% accurate
Seeing as the teleporter is also a traitor weapon an innocent does have to announce getting one just like any other traitor weapon.
if it’s bought from the detective shop it’s a detective weapon.
Yeh but it’s in the traitor shop also, so it’s also a traitor weapon aswel and should be announced
Should be, like as an suggestion to avoid confusion or required by the rules making it a valid KOS?
Me and bunch of others don't count the teleporter as a Traitor weapon like, for example, a poison dart rifle is without a doubt, a traitor weapon.
Some staff don't really count a detective/traitor weapon as a kosable weapon :?
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224788

Gin wrote:
Maddox wrote:
Kyber wrote:
Miia wrote:
Kyber wrote:
Gin wrote:
I thought of using a tactic similar to this one a while ago

Then I realized that detectives have teleporters so it is possible for innocent people to teleport to nether and get falsely slapped in the face after exiting

This line of information makes it not 100% accurate -> "Killing on sus"
IMO this should be a valid way to kill traitors but ZARP TTT doesn't allow deducing
That’s actually a fair point, as the teleporter is also a detective weapon, this method could be terribly flawed. If you’re right about it then there’s not much the staff can do to punish, but if an innocent finds a teleporter from the body of a detective or is given one by a detective then they do not have to call it out as theoretically it was bought from the detective shop and is a detective weapon. Based on this it isn’t 100% accurate
Seeing as the teleporter is also a traitor weapon an innocent does have to announce getting one just like any other traitor weapon.
if it’s bought from the detective shop it’s a detective weapon.
Yeh but it’s in the traitor shop also, so it’s also a traitor weapon aswel and should be announced
Should be, like as an suggestion to avoid confusion or required by the rules making it a valid KOS?
Me and bunch of others don't count the teleporter as a Traitor weapon like, for example, a poison dart rifle is without a doubt, a traitor weapon.
Some staff don't really count a detective/traitor weapon as a kosable weapon :?
The main point is there is no way for an innocent to normally get their hands on a teleporter so they need to explain how they got one, with detective only weapons this does not matter as the only way they could have got one is from a detective. The whole "oh i said i found it so you cant kill me" rule is retarded anyway but if you see a player who is not a detective use a teleporter without announcing it you have every right to kill them.
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224790

I'm having a migraine just reading all these comments. How can you not see this is a VaLiD gOoD tHoUgHt OuT pLaN?!

All those giving excuses about how it can loopholed or it ain't valid or about how a teleporter ain't a t weapon. You should really really read the rules and learn the game type once more.
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224834

Kurzex wrote:
I'm having a migraine just reading all these comments. How can you not see this is a VaLiD gOoD tHoUgHt OuT pLaN?!

All those giving excuses about how it can loopholed or it ain't valid or about how a teleporter ain't a t weapon. You should really really read the rules and learn the game type once more.
What the fuck are you talking about
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Juzo's new tactic (personal concerns) 3 years 11 months ago #1224835

Gin wrote:
Maddox wrote:
Kyber wrote:
Miia wrote:
Kyber wrote:
Gin wrote:
I thought of using a tactic similar to this one a while ago

Then I realized that detectives have teleporters so it is possible for innocent people to teleport to nether and get falsely slapped in the face after exiting

This line of information makes it not 100% accurate -> "Killing on sus"
IMO this should be a valid way to kill traitors but ZARP TTT doesn't allow deducing
That’s actually a fair point, as the teleporter is also a detective weapon, this method could be terribly flawed. If you’re right about it then there’s not much the staff can do to punish, but if an innocent finds a teleporter from the body of a detective or is given one by a detective then they do not have to call it out as theoretically it was bought from the detective shop and is a detective weapon. Based on this it isn’t 100% accurate
Seeing as the teleporter is also a traitor weapon an innocent does have to announce getting one just like any other traitor weapon.
if it’s bought from the detective shop it’s a detective weapon.
Yeh but it’s in the traitor shop also, so it’s also a traitor weapon aswel and should be announced
Should be, like as an suggestion to avoid confusion or required by the rules making it a valid KOS?
Me and bunch of others don't count the teleporter as a Traitor weapon like, for example, a poison dart rifle is without a doubt, a traitor weapon.
Some staff don't really count a detective/traitor weapon as a kosable weapon :?
Honestly that’s probably the best course of action, because some official clarification by the lead team could easily settle this
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