TOPIC: Welp, SSRP is dying.

dope

Its going to end up dead because chute’s sucked all the money of the 12 year olds that have acces to their moms credit card so they can buy booster packs etc

loxeo wrote: I mean that sidebar doesn't show whether or not people are basing so that argument is irrelevant.

GmadTheH4cker wrote: It's dead now because you guys stopped at some point or it's dead now because you didn't try again (with a high ranking staff member supervising it). It's very easy to shout that something is dead and it's anlot harder to, y'know, actually try to do something.

I mean its about time

i dont know about others, but i have done around 30+ nukes this month, and Pink also setting up a base this weekend!
thats something to look forward to i guess

SSRP needs a fix with the basing problems we have atm. Nobody cares about money since you buy boosters and you are rich again. The thrill to play is just not here anymore.

AceInsidious wrote: what are the problems with basing

It is anything but dying, just take a look at the gametrackers from the past week

AceInsidious wrote:
I agree. A lot of the recents updates have completely destroyed basing, and basing and raiding is a very important thing if you want an active server.

Tbh it is, the ranking of the servers are going down lately, I mean like newbies can't even have a chance to play around, base neither raid since other people can just come with fucking suits and special weapons and destroy them in 5 seconds. I just miss the old times in 2014-2015 when there wasn't no upgrades neither gay suits. It was really fun back then and enjoyable af, but now dreams got broken into shitty op features

People have gone back tp mainly pvp based gameplay as printers are no longer triple/ 5x boosted

The best times were 2014. I'd have to grind for days with an auto clicker to craft milkors and orbs. Once I got 50m which took a few weeks, I bought the Ferrari and I was so happy.

Back then the grind was real, it all changed after the Tgun was introduced but it was still a lot of fun as milkors,m202s were still used. The economy wasn't damaged, boosters packs wouldn't give you this massive advantage, just extra space and a few other benefits. This was 2015 and that was also a fun time to play where 300m was a lot.

There was bases, raids all the time but it has changed, drastically and it's not good. I see these booster packs giving huge advantages causing people not to base because why waste time on the game when you can just buy booster packs. I could understand from an owner perspective but for the players it's not promising.

I also see items that I would never expect to see in a million years. The concept of the game mode has shifted from this focus on actually having to grind(Craft, Mine, Print) against trying to "RIP" suits.

Raeker wrote:
More players = higher chance to base

We aren't looking for relentless or 2-man bases, we want bib bases to raid for enjoyment. And there were none. Not to anyone's surprise, as the point of basing is gone when you can just buy boosters to get rich. From the past updates, people have gained tens of billions. Everyone (generalizing) has multiplied their wealth tenfold and that's just not fun, to me at least. I haven't played because of mainly this and other reasons, it's just not worth it anymore - people base when they need money, not often for enjoyment.

That's a little off-topic. However, I can confirm there were no significant non-hidden bases that we wanted to raid. And there won't be many for a while.

I can understand peoples saying " suits ruined a fair bit of rp potential this server had ".
But straight up saying " It was better back in 2014-2015 " is retarded Im sorry. Had the server not evolved Im quite sure it would be way worse than now in term of popularity because everyone would've been bored of yet another darkrp server where there's no goal to reach but make more and more money.

Suits and other expensive items brought a meaning to being rich. Because everyone wants that super op suit or that over-destructive explosive weapon. Everyone wants to stand at the top and be " that cool guy in a suit ".

The real problem of this server is the difficulty for new players to actualy earn money and that's what makes them go away. When you start your only choice is basicaly to grow mushroom/weed or mine steel to sell to make some garbage money. And basing takes so much time, effort and a decent ammount of money to even begin with that it's just not worth it for most players. I mean when there's no special 3x boosted printers or x5 suits, basing normaly takes up to 3-4 hours before you even make back the money you spent on the special printers. And that's more than enough time to be raided 100 times over considering there are constantly peoples connecting to S1/S2/S3 with scan master and nano/hyper to raid whoever might be basing.

This leads to a stagnant player base with no newcomers staying inducing a lack of competition and a general boring feeling when you join any of the servers because litteraly half of the players on S1 just stand idle at spawn or just sell shit in their shop. Which I will never understand because some peoples actualy never even base/raid/nuke but still gather billions that are just gonna sit in their bank account.

Jool wrote:
Please, if you were a player in 2014 you would understand why everyone says it.

Sure, servers need maintaining and something needs to be introduced to keep a flow of entertainment going. However, for a lot of people, just simply having that rivalry against other gangs and making bits of cash was enough to keep them playing.

When players weren't drowning in money, trying to make as much as possible was the goal for a lot of people. If you ask what the difference is between earning 100m back then and earning 10b nowadays is that there was always so much more you could make. Same with the 10b but when does it stop? 999b? Even so, special weapons like orbs were worth 20m. Money was a lot harder to make back then, which extends the time that players are on in which they're grinding.

Rich coming from me but, to maintain a healthy server I think a communication should be established with the players to hear their ideas and concerns. Something like a community liaison in which takes place on the teamspeak every so often. Understandably, bringing out updates, surprises and all that jazz is nice but when these updates are only created from one perspective which is the owners, the players have no choice but to stick with it even if it's something we don't like. Instead, the owners can focus on what the players want to see not what they want.

I have an example to show how things have got out of hand. There is a suggestion which is to buff the VIP printers to double their output. Back in 2014 just having nuke printers down meant business. You didn't have money to just waste putting them down, once you put it down you were there for hours.

Here we are, looking at suggestions to double their output JUST to keep up with the economy.

Not to sound disrespectful.

Raeker wrote: #SAVAGE
No but basing died after elevator bases got removed. #BringBackElevatorBases

Jool wrote: zarp 2014 wasnt about making tons of money at all, let me reword that
basing wasnt the only method of making money

Jool wrote:
You have a point regarding new content. To keep a server fresh updates needs to happen. However things that used to have value such as investing your money into weapon shipments is literally a meme. Back years ago investing in such thing was a huge deal and as you died you lost your weapon and if you did it consistently you'd lose alot of cash but as time passed this wasn't really an issue anymore due to people obtaining enough money. Thanks to updates such as Millkor, orb, matador and rpgs, money didn't really flood the server as people had stuff to invest their cash in. But as new items are added, better printers are aswell. For now the GPP has been capped to be the best one and other printers are just below that. I'm not really sure if the Owners are aware of the trap they have put the server in: Adding special printers being below the average value causes less people to base and not being hyped to play. Adding new special printers above the average value (Let's say a printer that 4x boosted gives 22m) causes all the other printers to become pretty much useless (kinda like the diamond printer is right now). And finaly adding more printers at the same value outcome as the previous ones (around 3m an hour 2x boosted) will ensure the server into having way too many printers which might be the most problematic feature.

As of right now the biggest problem with Zarp is that you can't really spend your money other than trading it with items to other players, but that doesn't solve anything as now that player you just traded with has your cash. The only thing i can think of is crafting blueprints and the rare shop but since it's mostly items for 5-10m it really doesn't do anything as you can print that money in no time. They need to introduce more ways to deposit your cash back to the server, maybe adding events such as a blackjack minigame against the server?

The second biggest problem which is similar to above is that the server is filled with too many cheap weapons. They should increase the heavy weapon cost atleast 20x times so it would feel like an 'investment more than a chore'. Maybe introduce another weaponpack other than m9k as a compromise?

Then lunch nukes, Base the bases! Its not hard to find something to do!!!! Just Do it