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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #724961

sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
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Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

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fix that tone MISTER
I didnt exploit his lack in english lol everyone just assumed that (A-TEAM BiB Etc)
Fix your tone mister
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #724965

Why try to raise this discussion again? It has been put down plenty of times. It is clear that the CM team do not wish for another change in the hacking policy.

Really, all this post will do is cause drama and issues that is not needed. It won't get us anywhere at all.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #724967

AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

also

fix that tone MISTER
I didnt exploit his lack in english lol everyone just assumed that (A-TEAM BiB Etc)
Fix your tone mister
it very much did seem like that, considering he denied it multiple times afterwards, you refused to pull ascenda up so he could translate, and you abused the fact that he was scared of getting banned and his understanding of english is quite poor so he couldn't really defend himself. "Admit it or you will be permanently banned" or something along those lines is what you said. then it was quite sad that you made a post about it, considering you got pissed at morgan for a very similar thing.

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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #724968

Sally wrote:
A scammer only has the ban for the time in which they don't pay up the things they scammed and only affects the person scammed, but a cheater can affect the whole server and gets a kick, 9 times out of 10 the cheater will just rejoin with the same cheat loaded in because the whole intent of using it is to annoy other people and give themself an unfair advantage. The idea of an appeal is not an idea as they just don't care but the ones that do care have the chance to appeal, if someone is going out of their way to cheat it is their choice and should face the consequences and it is common that a kick is not an adequate form of punishment.

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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #724970

sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

also

fix that tone MISTER
I didnt exploit his lack in english lol everyone just assumed that (A-TEAM BiB Etc)
Fix your tone mister
it very much did seem like that, considering he denied it multiple times afterwards, you refused to pull ascenda up so he could translate, and you abused the fact that he was scared of getting banned and his understanding of english is quite poor so he couldn't really defend himself. "Admit it or you will be permanently banned" or something along those lines is what you said. then it was quite sad that you made a post about it, considering you got pissed at morgan for a very similar thing.

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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #724972

Clarky wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

also

fix that tone MISTER
I didnt exploit his lack in english lol everyone just assumed that (A-TEAM BiB Etc)
Fix your tone mister
it very much did seem like that, considering he denied it multiple times afterwards, you refused to pull ascenda up so he could translate, and you abused the fact that he was scared of getting banned and his understanding of english is quite poor so he couldn't really defend himself. "Admit it or you will be permanently banned" or something along those lines is what you said. then it was quite sad that you made a post about it, considering you got pissed at morgan for a very similar thing.

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@Sorle im really not gonna argue about this anymore yeye? k
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725049

TBH, i agree with this.

IF you are caught cheating, you have the intent to ruin or disrupt other players experience within the community, not an "Ohh it was an accident".

So many cheats are easily detectable by some form of a means, Odium, being the broken screenshot, which they won't ever be able to fix in their current methods, or even what seems to be still more common than citizen, "Convar edits, and Source Edits"(3 people in one given day logged on to surf, and had Convar Edits), in which, the PS servers do checks on these, with it being (kick, followed by a ban).

It is WAY to easy to cheat, and even at the basic level of cheating is not detected on SSRP, like it is on the PS servers.

Citizen will be hard to catch, due to their systems and how they have made the cheat, I give them props, they have made something that is good at not being detected, shame the rest of it is crappy lol.

In my opinion, if you are caught hacking, it should be a perm ban, with a chance to appeal after x time for example 2-4 weeks.
with the length progressively getting longer to appeal, not "Kick, Ban".

I personally was caught cheating on SSRP at one point, when i first started playing, as of which i got a kick for, but that didn't stop be from logging on again with no visuals, at that time, if it was a ban for a period of time, i know for a fact i would have came back without anything on.
Further more, if users join the server to primarily hack and no regards, then they won't ever appeal anyway.

The current policy is way to lenient on hackers, and i agree Scammers get a harsher punishment than you do when hacking.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725060

Why not...Cac? (Cake Anti Cheat) It stop my Memeware. When I first 'hack/troll' I bypass the current Anti-cheat system in Zarp last year idk. idk about citizen and the other never tried cause I luv Zarp <3 and I miss...you *crying*
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725062

Alina wrote:
Why not...Cac? (Cake Anti Cheat) It stop my Memeware. When I first 'hack/troll' I bypass the current Anti-cheat system in Zarp last year idk. idk about citizen and the other never tried cause I luv Zarp <3 and I miss...you *crying*

Citizen bypasses anything pretty much
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725070

The hacking policy protecting people we knew 100% were hacking has always been annoying. I doubt it'll be changed but can always hope.

EDIT: The one I hated most is that it protects people using blatant and obvious detours to make the request fail or come back with missing menus and getting in pretty dumb arguments with people saying "Does it clearly show ESP etc? No? Then you can't ban him"
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725088

Magik wrote:
Alina wrote:
Why not...Cac? (Cake Anti Cheat) It stop my Memeware. When I first 'hack/troll' I bypass the current Anti-cheat system in Zarp last year idk. idk about citizen and the other never tried cause I luv Zarp <3 and I miss...you *crying*

Citizen bypasses anything pretty much
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725102

I know ZARP likes to use Custom Made things by why doesn't EMP Max and Chute just implement the CAC Anticheat
it would stop a lot of randies using shitty ass hacks, also would Stop aimware which is becoming a viable cheat when you dont use visuals because CitizenHack is getting easier to detect due to the steam overlay thing.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725118

AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
I know ZARP likes to use Custom Made things by why doesn't EMP Max and Chute just implement the CAC Anticheat
it would stop a lot of randies using shitty ass hacks, also would Stop aimware which is becoming a viable cheat when you dont use visuals because CitizenHack is getting easier to detect due to the steam overlay thing.
you know CAC is 15$?
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725125

Nekker wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
I know ZARP likes to use Custom Made things by why doesn't EMP Max and Chute just implement the CAC Anticheat
it would stop a lot of randies using shitty ass hacks, also would Stop aimware which is becoming a viable cheat when you dont use visuals because CitizenHack is getting easier to detect due to the steam overlay thing.
you know CAC is 15$?
didnt know
Also actually I was just told CAC Affects performance
I know Soxey was working on a project back in 2015 but it was the PHP Side.
Hopefully someone decides to work on a Anti-Cheat but I am helping Tyler with a few things atm.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725154

We punish scammers this way so we can force them to give the items they scammed back. As soon as they give the items back they are unbanned. You may scam million of times and give the items back without getting perma banned ( except recents ) but if you hack more than twice you get perma banned and have to appeal.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725160

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A scammer only has the ban for the time in which they don't pay up the things they scammed and only affects the person scammed, but a cheater can affect the whole server and gets a kick, 9 times out of 10 the cheater will just rejoin with the same cheat loaded in because the whole intent of using it is to annoy other people and give themself an unfair advantage. The idea of an appeal is not an idea as they just don't care but the ones that do care have the chance to appeal, if someone is going out of their way to cheat it is their choice and should face the consequences and it is common that a kick is not an adequate form of punishment.

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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725170

Crap, they are getting on me *uninstalls hacks*
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725209

all the rules need updating tbh
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725233

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Citizen will be hard to catch, due to their systems and how they have made the cheat, I give them props, they have made something that is good at not being detected, shame the rest of it is crappy lol.
Well I mean its not rly that complex it just exploits the fact that Garry's Mod is rly old and rly shit so when you think about it the whole thing is crappy. There are loads of cheats which are not only superior in quality and features but also in hiding from detection its just the majority are private or invite only. There are probably many more suspected hackers who you will never catch.
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Hackers 6 years 6 months ago #725247

RealDenis wrote:
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Citizen will be hard to catch, due to their systems and how they have made the cheat, I give them props, they have made something that is good at not being detected, shame the rest of it is crappy lol.
Well I mean its not rly that complex it just exploits the fact that Garry's Mod is rly old and rly shit so when you think about it the whole thing is crappy. There are loads of cheats which are not only superior in quality and features but also in hiding from detection its just the majority are private or invite only. There are probably many more suspected hackers who you will never catch.

i'd love to see what hacks you can come up with then :D
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