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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724922

The biggest issue we have at the moment on the SSRP Servers are hackers. Not really just the large amount of them, which there is, but the way we deal with them and how limited we can navigate dealing with them. Obvious cheaters are easy, but cheats like Citizen Hack and Odium, and other cheats with no visuals are very annoying to deal with.

We punish Scammers more harshly than we do hackers. A scammer affects one persons experience, a hacker affects hundreds of people every day. The fact we can't punish someone who is blatantly using lets say odium, where in the anti-cheat's of them half of their hud is missing and you can't see any of their menu's (F4, Bank, Tab) is completely ridiculous. Right now, our policy helps hackers more than it does hurt them, very rarely will there be a player who isn't hacking that get's banned for hacking. It's the other way around, players who are hacking are free to roam around with minimal chance of getting caught if they know what they're doing, and when they do they get a kick and know how to hide them better next time around.

We seriously need to have a community wide discussion I feel about the issue that scammers are punished more harshly than hackers even when hackers affect 100x more people than a scammer.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724929

but you wait for Chute's response saying GTA V hacking policy is more lenient than this, it's really the same thing tbh and it needs changing
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724931

I know right.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724932

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I know right.

(FAdmin) |Z| Morgan (STEAM_0:1:82175) Banned Magik (permanent) (Hacking(Stop with the BS.))
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724933

I support the idea on punishing hackers heavier than scammers, but scammers don't really get an actual permaban since they can just give the items back

An idea is to keep the same policy but changing the kick to a temporary ban with no chance to apply
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724934

Klaprefot wrote:
Magik wrote:
I know right.

(FAdmin) |Z| Morgan (STEAM_0:1:82175) Banned Magik (permanent) (Hacking(Stop with the BS.))

He is unbanned
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724937

Just perma ban them and get rid of them, knowing how perm bans work here the ones that want to be back will appeal it in a few months.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724938

I'm an ex hacker and I strongly agree to this I even admitted I think personally from the other perspective I wouldn't want myself on the server now because I've versed many hackers now realizing its not even cool

Don't give me hate for this not everyone will realize even from a hackers point of view its not cool also
its not easy doing this as the community will most likely gravitate away from ex cheaters I'm coming out of my shell to voice my opinion on it have a good day :D
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724941

Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724943

A scammer only has the ban for the time in which they don't pay up the things they scammed and only affects the person scammed, but a cheater can affect the whole server and gets a kick, 9 times out of 10 the cheater will just rejoin with the same cheat loaded in because the whole intent of using it is to annoy other people and give themself an unfair advantage. The idea of an appeal is not an idea as they just don't care but the ones that do care have the chance to appeal, if someone is going out of their way to cheat it is their choice and should face the consequences and it is common that a kick is not an adequate form of punishment.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724944

So many hackers also just make other people want hack to be on a equal playing field IMO.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724945

AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724954

sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724957

Add a new rule MAKING all players to have steam overlay enabled.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724958

AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

also

fix that tone MISTER
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724961

sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

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fix that tone MISTER
I didnt exploit his lack in english lol everyone just assumed that (A-TEAM BiB Etc)
Fix your tone mister
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Aspect wrote:
you always manage to 1 shot us even though you're extremely exposed in the open and you shouldn't really have a chance to kill us. You just make these crazy 1 taps not even Hermione did when he played, and I can tell you he played 18 hours a day at one point.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724965

Why try to raise this discussion again? It has been put down plenty of times. It is clear that the CM team do not wish for another change in the hacking policy.

Really, all this post will do is cause drama and issues that is not needed. It won't get us anywhere at all.
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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724967

AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

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fix that tone MISTER
I didnt exploit his lack in english lol everyone just assumed that (A-TEAM BiB Etc)
Fix your tone mister
it very much did seem like that, considering he denied it multiple times afterwards, you refused to pull ascenda up so he could translate, and you abused the fact that he was scared of getting banned and his understanding of english is quite poor so he couldn't really defend himself. "Admit it or you will be permanently banned" or something along those lines is what you said. then it was quite sad that you made a post about it, considering you got pissed at morgan for a very similar thing.

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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724968

Sally wrote:
A scammer only has the ban for the time in which they don't pay up the things they scammed and only affects the person scammed, but a cheater can affect the whole server and gets a kick, 9 times out of 10 the cheater will just rejoin with the same cheat loaded in because the whole intent of using it is to annoy other people and give themself an unfair advantage. The idea of an appeal is not an idea as they just don't care but the ones that do care have the chance to appeal, if someone is going out of their way to cheat it is their choice and should face the consequences and it is common that a kick is not an adequate form of punishment.

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Hackers 6 years 5 months ago #724970

sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
sorle wrote:
AyyLookItzGmad wrote:
Please fix the policy there were so many players who were blatant I could of gotten banned but the Policy stated otherwise.
yes let's allow more people like you to exploit someone's lack of English and get them banned because they beat you in a 1v1

edit: i agree with the base thing of more harshly punishing hackers but I don't think people should be banned on the spot based on suspicion, sure you should be allowed to ban blatant spinbotters etc but not like 1 or 2 sketchy shots, they should be voted on in LTM
Actually that wasn't what i was talking about nor was it the reason he was even confronted. The Admin Emp1re stepped in and literally accused him because I said in admin chat "korks kinda fishy imo he hits these weird 2 tap headshots"
Abusing the fact that he doesnt speak english? I tried to make sure he understood every time i said something so if you are gonna be a cunt then go fuck off somewhere else.
i dont care what you were talking about, its the fact that you brought it up that made me question the statements validity and how it could potentially be abused

also

fix that tone MISTER
I didnt exploit his lack in english lol everyone just assumed that (A-TEAM BiB Etc)
Fix your tone mister
it very much did seem like that, considering he denied it multiple times afterwards, you refused to pull ascenda up so he could translate, and you abused the fact that he was scared of getting banned and his understanding of english is quite poor so he couldn't really defend himself. "Admit it or you will be permanently banned" or something along those lines is what you said. then it was quite sad that you made a post about it, considering you got pissed at morgan for a very similar thing.

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